guys who act nice(but get laid)

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10 Feb 2014, 9:32 pm

so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex,just
by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.?

can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?



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10 Feb 2014, 9:50 pm

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so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex ...

Ehh, no need to go any further. He's a Douchebag™.



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10 Feb 2014, 9:53 pm

deleted, as my answer was irrelevant, being that I misunderstood the question



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10 Feb 2014, 10:03 pm

billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex,just
by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.?

can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?



WThF?? Are you insinuating that the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person?

First, you're not even clear on what you mean by "Nice Guy" which is a pretty vague concept, since we all know (or should) that nobody is perfect.

I would also question the notion that "being nice" should make anyone feel "entitled" to sex. Any feeling of "entitlement" to my mind, kind of automatically disqualifies you from"Nice Guy" status all by itself, because only an arrogant narcissist feels that the world (or in this case, a woman) OWES them something for behaving a certain way - that expectation implies that the behavior was just a put-on act all along, which makes the man in question a manipulative heel, pretending to be something he isn't, to fool someone else into giving him what he wants. That kind of selfishness is not "nice."

So, to answer each question directly:

1) No. Feeling entitled because you pretended to be a nice person makes you a jerk. There's nothing "nice guy" about it.

2) Of course. Sociopathic jerks are not the only guys on the planet whom women find attractive. In fact, while I may often joke that "chicks dig jerks," the truth is, it takes a certain type of damaged personality to be drawn to that sort of guy, so when you lose a girl to a man like that, be glad she didn't choose you, because you would not have ended up living happily ever after.

There are actually decent human beings in the world having stable, happy relationships, surely you've seen a few of them.



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10 Feb 2014, 10:41 pm

Deuterium wrote:
billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex ...
Ehh, no need to go any further. He's a Douchebag™.

A Nice Guy™ would never use someone else for sex. Thus, merely acting like a Nice Guy™ to have sex does not make a someone a Nice Guy™ -- it makes him a Bad Boy™ instead.

I am Fnord™ and I Approve™ this message.



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10 Feb 2014, 10:44 pm

sex entitlement. good one. is that anything like demanding respect? sounds to me like an entitlement issue.



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10 Feb 2014, 11:43 pm

If a man who is nice has un-copyrighted sex,
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11 Feb 2014, 12:05 am

Willard wrote:
billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex,just
by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.?

can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?



WThF?? Are you insinuating that the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're exactly right in your assessment.



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11 Feb 2014, 8:47 am

TheGoggles wrote:
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billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex, just by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.? can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?
WThF?? Are you insinuating that the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're exactly right in your assessment.

I'll shake the tree and say that implying that "the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person" is like implying that "the ability to have a successful business automatically makes you a bad person", as well; and saying that "All sexually successful people are manipulative psychopaths" is like saying "All financially successful people have lied, cheated, and stolen their wealth from others".

Why is it that there will always be unsuccessful people who accuse successful people of achieving their success through devious means?

Sour grapes.



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11 Feb 2014, 9:26 am

billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex,just
by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.?

can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?


I think what you people need to get in your head that being nice is just like "brushing your teeth".

"Brushing your teeth" neither will cause anyone to say "Oh that gal/guy is so sexy, because of her/him brushing her/his teeth, I know want to get in an relationship with her/him, and/or have sex with her/him."

NOT brushing your teeth, simply will cause 99% of people to automatical NOT be interested in you.

So yes, brushing your teeth is in my oppinion, something that I really recommend when meeting other people, but noone will fall in love with you because of that.

Being nice towards otehrs is simply minimum standard, so that people dont turn away from you. But behaving like every other normal person as well, does not make you anything special.

So if you are a nice guy AND brush your teeth, and dont get a date, then its simply because being nice and brushing your teeth, simply is a minimum standard for every kind of conversations, including stuff like talking to the cashier in the supermarket or ordering some sausages at the butcher. O_o

But I assure you, NOONE will ever have decided NOT to meet you again, because of you brushing your teeth. Telling yourself such nonsense, will not acchieve you anything.



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11 Feb 2014, 10:29 am

Fnord wrote:
TheGoggles wrote:
Willard wrote:
billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex, just by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.? can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?
WThF?? Are you insinuating that the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're exactly right in your assessment.

I'll shake the tree and say that implying that "the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person" is like implying that "the ability to have a successful business automatically makes you a bad person", as well; and saying that "All sexually successful people are manipulative psychopaths" is like saying "All financially successful people have lied, cheated, and stolen their wealth from others".

Why is it that there will always be unsuccessful people who accuse successful people of achieving their success through devious means?

Sour grapes.


Hey now, let's not import drama. And strawmen. :wink:



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11 Feb 2014, 11:05 am

Those who feel they are entitled to sex are trained in the ways of the sith.


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11 Feb 2014, 11:27 am

Fnord wrote:
Deuterium wrote:
billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex ...
Ehh, no need to go any further. He's a Douchebag™.

A Nice Guy™ would never use someone else for sex. Thus, merely acting like a Nice Guy™ to have sex does not make a someone a Nice Guy™ -- it makes him a Bad Boy™ instead.

I am Fnord™ and I Approve™ this message.


Be careful Fnord™, we don't want any of these White Knights™ to start being Whine Arses™...


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11 Feb 2014, 11:32 am

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Those who feel they are entitled to sex are trained in the ways of the sith.
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12 Feb 2014, 10:38 am

Anyway, aside from the not so serious comment I posted yesterday, here is a good thought for you.

If a nice guy can get laid, chances are he is doing a better job of connecting with a women on an emotional level than other people are. Think about.


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12 Feb 2014, 12:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
TheGoggles wrote:
Willard wrote:
billiscool wrote:
so,if guy thinks that he's entitle to sex, just by being nice,but he actual gets sex,is he's a Nice Guy tm.? can a guy be a Nice Guy tm,if he's successful with women.?
WThF?? Are you insinuating that the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're exactly right in your assessment.

I'll shake the tree and say that implying that "the ability to have a successful sexual relationship automatically makes you a bad person" is like implying that "the ability to have a successful business automatically makes you a bad person", as well; and saying that "All sexually successful people are manipulative psychopaths" is like saying "All financially successful people have lied, cheated, and stolen their wealth from others".

Why is it that there will always be unsuccessful people who accuse successful people of achieving their success through devious means?

Sour grapes.

I'd say half sour grapes and half "black and white thinking" (particularly on an AS centered board.) Nice Guy TM's live in a world where you can either be a complete doormat who constantly gets taken advantage of or a sociopathic a**hole. There's no such thing as a middle ground between the two. They are also immune to the effects of irony.