How to appear more open and less aloof

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quantumanomaly
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04 Jun 2014, 3:54 pm

I am a 22 year old woman who will be starting my PhD in theoretical physics in the fall. I have suspected that I have aspergers for the past few years as it could potentially a lot of my personality/life experiences. I've never been diagnosed (which I think is a good thing as it wouldn't have changed my life other than to possibly attach me to the stigma surrounding it). That being said, while I just am starting to feel confident and comfortable in my social life, I still have a lot of questions regarding how I should go about pursuing a romantic relationship. I just think it would be nice to have a companion that I have special feelings for

I have never been in a relationship partially by choice and partially because I just haven't found the right person. Since I am in physics, I am mostly friends with guys. While it seems (from what I have heard) that some of my male friends have been attracted to me at some point it usually takes me a long time to tell.

I set up an Okcupid account as an experiment to see how people would react to my online profile. I was surprised at how people messaged me expressing very positive impressions from my profile. This leads me to believe that I may either appear as aloof/unapproachable in person or am having trouble gauging romantic interest. I have trouble reading positive social cues. I can read negative ones very well (although I may be reading a lot of positive or neutral cues as negative ones), but it seems that part of my trouble involving relationships and fitting in with groups might be due to not reading positive cues. I never felt that I was likable in the past, but for the first time in my life, I feel that people like me and think I am a good person.

Usually the men I am attracted to are professors who are in their mid thirties. I think it's kind of odd, but I am rarely attracted to men my own age. I don't know why this is.

I have heard from a few of my older female friends that guys may find me intimidating. So I guess the questions I would like to ask are how do I make myself seem more approachable and open to having a romantic relationship? How can I tell that someone is interested in me and how should I act if this is the case?



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04 Jun 2014, 4:08 pm

I want to know the answer to this too. I relate to everything you wrote, only didifference is I'm not doing a physics PhD.



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04 Jun 2014, 4:55 pm

Classic! If you are autistic, you probably have little or no ability to transmit or receive non-verbal communications. Because of traditions and bashfulness, most romantic overtures are radiated non-verbally. You don't radiate that stuff and you can't interpret the signals from others. I'm the same way. Just learn to make a few statements that compensate and ask a few leading questions - that is what the neurotypical people do non-verbally.

Also, do you have eye contact issues? Some autistics have an "avoidant gaze" while others, like me, have the "direct-eye gaze."



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04 Jun 2014, 7:59 pm

quantumanomaly wrote:
I am a 22 year old woman who will be starting my PhD in theoretical physics in the fall. I have suspected that I have aspergers for the past few years as it could potentially a lot of my personality/life experiences. I've never been diagnosed (which I think is a good thing as it wouldn't have changed my life other than to possibly attach me to the stigma surrounding it). That being said, while I just am starting to feel confident and comfortable in my social life, I still have a lot of questions regarding how I should go about pursuing a romantic relationship. I just think it would be nice to have a companion that I have special feelings for

I have never been in a relationship partially by choice and partially because I just haven't found the right person. Since I am in physics, I am mostly friends with guys. While it seems (from what I have heard) that some of my male friends have been attracted to me at some point it usually takes me a long time to tell.

I set up an Okcupid account as an experiment to see how people would react to my online profile. I was surprised at how people messaged me expressing very positive impressions from my profile. This leads me to believe that I may either appear as aloof/unapproachable in person or am having trouble gauging romantic interest. I have trouble reading positive social cues. I can read negative ones very well (although I may be reading a lot of positive or neutral cues as negative ones), but it seems that part of my trouble involving relationships and fitting in with groups might be due to not reading positive cues. I never felt that I was likable in the past, but for the first time in my life, I feel that people like me and think I am a good person.

Usually the men I am attracted to are professors who are in their mid thirties. I think it's kind of odd, but I am rarely attracted to men my own age. I don't know why this is.

I have heard from a few of my older female friends that guys may find me intimidating. So I guess the questions I would like to ask are how do I make myself seem more approachable and open to having a romantic relationship? How can I tell that someone is interested in me and how should I act if this is the case?


A lot of men like intelligent women (and someone with a PhD in theoretical physics is intelligent), and the notion that men are intimidated by career women is BS. If a guy takes contact with you a lot, wants to be with you without other people around, and so forth, he's usually interested.

You may want to learn how to become more approachable, and you shouldn't be afraid to make the first move; a lot of guys love it when girls do. You should also check out guides on how to tell if someone wants contact with you or not. I realize that there are fewer guides about this for women than for men.

Studying for a PhD can be extremely hectic, but also try to make the most out of your looks and get in shape. Don't worry about your lack of experience; most guys who like you (but not all) won't care about inexperience.


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04 Jun 2014, 8:37 pm

You seem like a most attractive person.

One of my ideals is a pretty woman who just so happens to be a Quantum Physicist!

I don't think it's odd that men in their 30's are attracted to you; that sort of attraction is common, actually.

I believe: if you don't want to seem distant, just ask about a guy's interest--creative-artistic, especially.

I know it would be great if you found a 22 year-old Carl Sagan! I truly hope you do.



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04 Jun 2014, 10:38 pm

I think what may be preventing me from romantic cues is that I don't read body language well. I mainly read people by tone of voice the types of responses they give. This works fine when I am trying to tell if someone is interested in having a conversation/spend time with me but I think it makes me miss a lot of the subtleties. I guess I am so afraid/used to rejection that I take any gesture I have trouble reading to be a negative.

I think this causes me to miss when people are flirting with me as well. I either think that that's how a guy talks to everyone or we are just having an interesting conversation. I was having a conversation with a guy at a house party once in which he was asking me about physics. I usually try to stay away from talking about myself and my interests (since I don't want to monopolize the conversation) unless people pry and I thought he just seemed to be interested. Then my friend later told me that he was majorly hitting on me. I just thought we were having a good conversation. How do you tell the difference between the two?

I've reached a point where I think I can fit in very well among the people I socialize with. They range from very shy to more outspoken and social but are mostly involved in science. It seems that I am now the one that feels awkward. Quite a few people I have met have commented that they are surprised I have never had a boyfriend. This makes me feel like I am getting very close but still need a bit more help in reading positive social cues. Is there a way to get better at reading body language to help me understand how to deal with all of this?



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06 Jun 2014, 4:26 am

quantumanomaly wrote:
I either think that that's how a guy talks to everyone or we are just having an interesting conversation.


Yup, totally understand that. I don't know if it would be a good idea to arrange to meet up with a guy like that again. If he's interested in you romantically then he will happily accept. If he isn't romantically interested, but wants to meet up for a chat anyway then you've found a new friend.