Love does not exist its all bogus!

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD5f1qGWtFg[/youtube]Theres no such thing as love it doesn't exist. Self interest exists attachment exists and self gain exist but not love its just chemical reactions in the brain its all a lie and an illusion! The world is an empty place living off lies that's all there is to it! What is the point of getting in a relationship knowing it is bound to end sooner or later? it is going to end either way so its all pointless!

Just because it's going to end doesn't mean it's pointless. You can enjoy the person for as long as you do and then move on.

You make the assertion of nonexistence at your own ontological peril. If love doesn't exist simply because it's attributable to chemical reactions in the brain, and/or attributable to evolutionary outcome (both of which I agree are true), then neither does fear exist, nor joy, nor anger, etc. To what extent do such things exist? As far as fictional ideas go, calling emotions emotions gives us a pretty convenient framework with which to communicate. Saying "Bob loves Sarah" is much easier than saying "Bob is experiencing a tendency to associate with Sarah in accordance with the evolutionary need to collaborate with a mate to eventually produce a habitable and nurturing environment for offspring".

Some scientific and engineering ideas like the Mohr circle, the Reynold's number, etc. might be fictional, or might be intrinsically real, but either way they give us impeccable precision in predicting physical phenomenon. The idea of "love" has not enabled us to consistently predict anything, so reliability cannot be cited as evidence for its existence.

Love exists in many different forms.

You don't have to move on. You know "until death as part".

Love does exist, however, i would say that that vast majority of people are living in that self-interest lie where they choose to 'love' the most fit human being rather than the most lovable one.

A person being lovable has nothing to do with their abilities, but we love people based upon their abilities, thus love in most cases seems like a sham.

Although this puts people with no ability in a much higher likelihood of finding love, if you can find someone to love you in your total weakness, that's a love that will last because it's going to be able to weather the worst of it, considering it's already been there.

A person willing to stand in the fire with you is a person that truly loves you. Most people would not do this, but this doesn't mean that those that would do not exist. If you are a person in weakness, you have a much higher likelihood of finding this kind of love, rather then just another partner who stays with you for security and self-interest, I.E that illusion...

Although I would admit, people like that are a rarity, but they are the ones you have to live for. Yes. most people are selfish. vain, greedy, etc...but every once in awhile there is that gem that comes from out of the blue. They are rare, but they are special and out of this world for a very good reason.

and I'm sure this person would hate it if you suddenly gave up looking for them.

Btw, this sort of disillusionment of love is a good path for becoming a christian. The bible frequently detaches the definition of love from self-interest, some of the famous verses from Corinthians 13 remarks upon defining love https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... nthians+13

Well, yeah, all relationships DO end, sooner/later, one way/another. The point is that we care about something or someone beyond ourselves.

Here's the thing: it appears to me (maybe I'm wrong) that you're seeking a relationship for how it's going to benefit YOU. And that's just human nature. We all do that.

People who succeed in getting a relationship aren't fundamentally any different. What sets them apart is the content of their self-interest. We are all seeking things that make us feel important or special.

If the pleasure of others is a key part of what makes you feel important or special, you are going to do things that impact others more directly than they impact you. How is that acting in self-interest? What do we gain from it? I dunno?it makes you feel good about yourself when you see someone smile, or laugh, or open up to you about themselves. You satisfy your own fascination with others when you get them to see you've taken an active interest in their lives. I mean, what YOU get out of it is entirely up to you, and the answer isn't the same for everyone. But it all comes down to deriving your own happiness or feelings of importance from giving that very feeling to others as a free gift.

That's all love is. Love is just doing more for others than for yourself. It's not an emotion. It's an action. I don't know where it comes from?I know for me it comes from a desire to see people happy.

To me, that's the point of relationships. Ultimately, it's not what you can get out of each other, but rather about what greater good you can get out of someone else's life. You don't get to ask for anything in return.

This may sound one-sided, but it isn't. BOTH people have to be actively interested and invested in the life of the other. We BOTH share in each victory and each defeat. We BOTH share in the joy and the grief. We BOTH share in sickness and health. Most couples, I think, or maybe at least half of them, seem to miss this fact. If ONE of you is having trouble, you BOTH have trouble. If ONE of you gets a raise or promotion of work, it affects you both. The way a lot of people treat personal problems is "Hey, that's YOUR problem, leave me out of it." Or if someone gets a bonus check at work or gets a raise, "You can't tell me how to spend MY money. I'm going shopping, get over it." Um, NO. What if I need a new vehicle and can't afford to buy one on my own, and if I don't have reliable transportation I'm out of a job? What happened to us putting our money together to buy a new house so we don't continue blowing money on rent? What about making sure our kids get to go to a good school? What about fixing the HVAC before it gets cold this winter? Our answer tends to be "not my problem." Um, you're half of this relationship, you better believe, yes, it IS your problem!

Loving relationships don't work that way. I quit a part-time job because we were spending MORE money on daycare just so I could have that job. I did NOT want to quit, but I couldn't justify doing that anymore. So I'm a full-time dad, make less money, and somehow we're not killing ourselves paying bills. And I'm willing to put my plans on hold because SOME THINGS ARE JUST MORE IMPORTANT.

People don't really want relationships. They just say that so they can trick others into having sex with them. I admit I'm guilty of this. It just came down to the other person being a bigger part of my life and having a more profound effect on the world than I ever could by myself. So anything I've sacrificed ended up not really being a sacrifice at all, and my life in a relationship is much more awesome than it would be without it.

That whole love=brain chemistry? Meh?that borders on solipsism. Even if it really IS just a chemical reaction, which I don't believe (that it is ONLY a chemical reaction), it's irrelevant. It's a THING that we experience regardless of origin or manifestation. What's more important is what we do with it.

Love exists as much as fear does. It's all just the wiring in your brain. Now wether you'll ever find someone with that shared emotion towards each other is not a guarantee and probably not likely for most

I know it exists, i have seen it in/ between my grandparents - that was the real deal - LOVE for sure.

Let go of fear.

I know love exists because I just got dumped and it hurts like hell. I must've been in love otherwise I wouldn't feel like dirt now.

The concept of romantic love long predates the theories which underpin liberal/capitalist economics.

Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.

I didn't know love as a child. However, all my adult life, I have known love to exist as a pure and beautiful thing.

If you're not into love/relationships, no one's forcing you to believe in love / have a relationship. So opt out.

(I'm a bit more optimistic. Relationships either crash & burn or end in marriage).