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16 Nov 2014, 5:10 pm

Like those in front of all friends or family, or in front of a whole public place.

Anyone think they're kind of retardely dumb and impose certain pressure?



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16 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm

The decision is essentially the same. It is only "dumb" if it goes wrong. How depending on personality intimate setting might be more romantic.

I'm actually not a fan of marriage in general, so it is not something I relate to.

I think the concept is to be memorable.



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16 Nov 2014, 5:42 pm

Yeah this is something that I feel should be private



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16 Nov 2014, 5:56 pm

Isn't it on some level meant to demonstrate how dedicated you are by risking publicly humiliating yourself?

Personally it is not something I get, because to me commitment, love and responsibility stand on their own without marriage.

I also think that most that do it are probably more sure than you think (not sure that the marriage will work, but sure they will say yes).

You hear of the odd rejection in public proposals, but not that many. Last one I heard about (which was elaborate and public), she hinted for a long time before hand.
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16 Nov 2014, 10:15 pm

I would hate that. I'd hate the attention and the pressure.

I saw a YouTube video of some guy's insane wedding proposal. It featured a flash mob, dancing, a marching band, probably some other stuff I didn't care to remember, and at the end of it, he asked his girlfriend if she would marry him right there, right then. (EDIT: I mean actually marry him right where they were standing. He had a priest and everything.) She was hesitant, but gave in, probably due to the all that pressure.

I don't even know if this is worth watching, but:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJWlavnM6b0[/youtube]



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16 Nov 2014, 10:41 pm

Who proposes to someone if they don't already know what the answer will be? I always think it's bizarre on tv shows when the man is all, "Oooh, I hope she says 'yes'". If you've never discussed marriage or your future with your long-term gf/bf, why on earth would you propose? And if you know what the answer will be, why not have your family and friends there? Unless it's just a personal preference for intimacy and privacy, in which case I totally understand.



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16 Nov 2014, 10:51 pm

It's not supposed to be high pressure. If a couple has been together long enough to discuss marriage and everything that goes with it, the guy is going to know that she'll say yes. When it's done right, proposing is just a formality.

If she's not ready tor marriage and we've been together in a serious LTR for a year and I'm looking to settle down, i'm going to break up with her. It's time to spend a fun-filled day at the zoo, eat some ice cream, talk about how wonderful her future is going to be without me in it, wish her the best, shed a tear, and say goodbye. Kiss on the cheek, arm-around-the-shoulders hug, shake hands, exeunt omnes, curtain, and applause.

What I'm NOT going to do is invest in a custom setting, 1ct. diamond and propose on the assumption that showing her something sparkly is going to magically change her mind.

To do it the right way, you'd ask if she sees a future with you together that includes being married. You have "the talk" and make sure you're on the same page as a couple. Next, you should discuss this with her parents. If they seem friendly to the idea, go ahead and propose to her at the next big family get-together. She'll say yes because she wants to.

I think probably a lot of proposals are in private, though. What I've seen more people do is hold "engagement parties" where they announce their intentions and celebrate the engagement.



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16 Nov 2014, 10:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like those in front of all friends or family, or in front of a whole public place.

Anyone think they're kind of retardely dumb and impose certain pressure?


I agree completely. I'd hate the attention. Proposals should be done in private.

In addition I think marriage is old-fashioned nonsense.


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17 Nov 2014, 5:28 am

Here a public proposal happened here few days ago:

First he's her boyfriend, not her fiancée (the real yes should be already passed to go to engagement stage, still that doesn't change my point), so wtf?
Second, it's in front of her colleagues, coworkers, friends, family...... on air; like wtf?

So basically she's given two choices: Either you say yes NOW and all is good, or humiliate him in front of the world and all is bad (leading to a breakup). No option of asking for more time or reconsideration.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4tRp6vtX9g[/youtube]



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17 Nov 2014, 5:59 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Isn't it on some level meant to demonstrate how dedicated you are by risking publicly humiliating yourself?

Personally it is not something I get, because to me commitment, love and responsibility stand on their own without marriage.

I also think that most that do it are probably more sure than you think (not sure that the marriage will work, but sure they will say yes).

You hear of the odd rejection in public proposals, but not that many. Last one I heard about (which was elaborate and public), she hinted for a long time before hand.
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I think It's basically a balls-showing macho-chivalrous-courage act, it's "I am proving how much I want you despite the humiliation risk".



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17 Nov 2014, 6:40 am

I guess it depends on whether it's accompanied by a flash mob of 50 people dancing to it with loud "feel good" music.



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17 Nov 2014, 7:33 am

Public proposal = Bad idea

I would suspect the person making the proposal is trying to pressure/influence the other into saying yes. You might as well decide whom you marry by rolling the dice.



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17 Nov 2014, 7:57 am

^ It would be genius tho if it's staged and the girl knows beforehand, a good way to gain popularity if she hosts a tv program or whatever or just want to make money on youtube..



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17 Nov 2014, 10:09 am

The flash mob wedding? Epic, man!

I don't think that was a pressure thing. That's what I'm talking about?They were already headed in that direction, anyway, so it just kinda made sense to get married on the spot. Engagements don't need to be drawn out any longer than absolutely necessary.

When I proposed to my wife?well, I'll spare the details, but we'd had a fight about moving forward with the relationship. We'd been dating off/on for about 5 years--honestly, waaaaaay too long. I was hoping for a little bit more stability in my professional life, and things just weren't working out for me as well as I'd hoped. But at the same time, she let me know in no uncertain terms if I kept stringing her along she was leaving. So I asked her if she'd marry me, and she's, like, hello??? So I said, ok, let's go pick out a ring. She just kinda rolls her eyes at me, like, whatever. So we find one that's 1ct., white gold setting, needs a slight resize, but otherwise she loves it. So I do the whole drop-to-one-knee thing and do the whole "Will you marry me?" thing. I've never seen her in more shock before or since, but of course she said "yes." Right there in the jewelry store.



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17 Nov 2014, 11:07 am

There is an expectation from some women that proposals should be grand and public spectacles...many times with an element of competition between other women. It's not a majority, but it's how Bridezillas are born.

The easy remedy is to avoid high maintenance women. I was proposed to in my living room, and we picked out our rings together. :)



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17 Nov 2014, 11:31 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:
There is an expectation from some women that proposals should be grand and public spectacles...many times with an element of competition between other women. It's not a majority, but it's how Bridezillas are born.

The easy remedy is to avoid high maintenance women. I was proposed to in my living room, and we picked out our rings together. :)



So in other term, you're saying that AngelRho's wife is high maintenance and that she wouldn't have said yes if it wasn't for the proposal in jewelry sotre.

You have to explain yourself to him.