Page 1 of 1 [ 12 posts ] 

Tori0326
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 12 Mar 2011
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 293

25 Jul 2015, 11:48 pm

I've been in a relationship with an NT woman for over 4 years now. I'm fairly happy but there's things about her that I don't like. She smokes, she likes to stretch the truth, she's not intellectual, she has a problem with alcohol. These were not things I realized all at once but now that I do I often pause and think this is not the type of person I pictured myself with.

But then my next thought is I'm no prize either. I'm an aspie with a likely aspie 7 yr old and she puts up with the both of us. All the other women I went out with all but ran away when they got a good feel for what I was like. The feedback I was able to get was essentially aspie downfalls....we weren't on the same wavelength, communication issues, I didn't "get" them, etc.

I don't "get" my girlfriend either and I gather that's a bad thing to NTs, especially NT women, but maybe that's not as critical to NTs with baggage. I figure I need an NT to motivate me and my son, otherwise we'd probably stay home and play video games most the time. She gets us out of the house and doing things. She helps a lot with the household stuff. Maybe I need to just let go of my ideals and be happy with what I have.



cathylynn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,045
Location: northeast US

26 Jul 2015, 12:01 am

have you ever considered Al-Anon, the support group for people who are bothered by someone else's drinking? There will be lots of folks there with practical tips on how to be happy whether the alcoholic is still drinking or not.



AliceKathleen
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 21 Aug 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 63
Location: Oceanside, California

26 Jul 2015, 10:11 am

Yes, I believe we DO have to settle! As aspies, sadly, we are just not able to take stress. And there is plenty of
stress in modern life. I have lived both alone and with an NT (sort of like you describe) and the main thing is,
he protects me from undue stress in the form of finances, driving, taking care of the house, etc. Without that help,
I have found that I fall into debt and dishonor. It's the stress. Yes, it's not always fun, so look for satisfaction
in your own creativity and self expression. Take a foreign language, train a dog for agility competition, paint,
take music lessons. Something that rings your bells and that you do alone. That's my take, anyway.



cupidspider
Butterfly
Butterfly

Joined: 26 Jul 2015
Age: 36
Posts: 14

26 Jul 2015, 2:35 pm

Tori0326 wrote:
I've been in a relationship with an NT woman for over 4 years now. I'm fairly happy but there's things about her that I don't like. She smokes, she likes to stretch the truth, she's not intellectual, she has a problem with alcohol. These were not things I realized all at once but now that I do I often pause and think this is not the type of person I pictured myself with.

But then my next thought is I'm no prize either. I'm an aspie with a likely aspie 7 yr old and she puts up with the both of us. All the other women I went out with all but ran away when they got a good feel for what I was like. The feedback I was able to get was essentially aspie downfalls....we weren't on the same wavelength, communication issues, I didn't "get" them, etc.

I don't "get" my girlfriend either and I gather that's a bad thing to NTs, especially NT women, but maybe that's not as critical to NTs with baggage. I figure I need an NT to motivate me and my son, otherwise we'd probably stay home and play video games most the time. She gets us out of the house and doing things. She helps a lot with the household stuff. Maybe I need to just let go of my ideals and be happy with what I have.


Leave her. She deserves so much better than a guy who is with her because she helps with house stuff.



Beau
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2005
Gender: Female
Posts: 893
Location: flower fields

26 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

No, you don't have to settle; you do have choices.


_________________
Don't settle for someone who doesn't see your worth.


goldfish21
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

27 Jul 2015, 3:42 am

Beau wrote:
No, you don't have to settle; you do have choices.


This. Fk that; never settle!

My AS symptoms are minimal now, so I have even less reason to "settle." I'd rather remain single that partner up with someone I don't see myself being with. In fact, I've turned down many offers to date over the years. Such is life that the very few I've been interested in so far haven't been interested in me in that way.. but whatever, eventually I'll meet someone with mutual attraction and compatibility and things will work out how they're meant to when they're meant to. 8)

Back before I learned how to treat my AS symptoms I still never felt like settling. Instead I avoided dating because I felt like I would be a burden on someone else and didn't want to bring anyone else down vs. being a positive addition to their life. I'm in a much better position now and feel like I could be a proper partner in a relationship and am open to meeting and dating someone - but I'll still never settle.

Besides, I'm gay and it's ridiculously easy to get laid if & when I want to, so that makes not settling when it comes to finding a partner quite a lot easier. But still, I wouldn't settle if I were straight and incel, either.


_________________
No :heart: for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.


Tori0326
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 12 Mar 2011
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Posts: 293

27 Jul 2015, 11:56 am

I do love her, actually. It's just sometimes she has put me through hell with her drinking. She is not a happy drunk, she is a dark, angry drunk. She's a war veteran and she usually talks about the war and/or picks a fight with me when she's drunk.

She got a good scare back during the holidays. She went to a Christmas party for her work and I took my son and his friend from next door to the movies. She was supposed to go with us but didn't come home in time and wasn't answering her phone. Her sister went looking for her and found her totally smashed in the parking lot of the hotel the party was at. She took her to her house and left her, thinking she'd sleep it off. Well, instead she decided to walk the mile to our house and apparently got clipped by a car on the dark road, from her account. When I arrived home with the boys she was all cut up and bleeding and still drunk. She was upset and not making any sense. I had to take the boys next door and take her to the emergency room.

She has not gotten drunk like that since, so I am hopeful, but she refuses to stop drinking altogether so I don't know if I truly believe episodes like that will ever end entirely. I want to do what's best for my son but I'm not sure what that is. Her family is great, she's the black sheep. I hate the thought of taking him away from them because they're family to him. I just also hate knowing some of things he's experienced because of her.



Vomelche
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Nov 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 789
Location: Ontario

27 Jul 2015, 3:12 pm

Have you tried talking about the bad drinking episodes with her? Sometimes you have to communicate your point of view because it can help the situation, this is something we are usually bad at. I think it would be too much to ask her to stop drinking altogether as it is her choice, but you can support her to avoid the bad episodes. If she's not able to control the problem, then you have to decide if its worthwhile to stay.



TheSpectrum
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Jun 2014
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,121
Location: Hampshire

27 Jul 2015, 3:29 pm

You don't have to settle for someone that doesn't make you happy.
Equally, you don't need to be with anyone to begin with. There is no requirement other than the one you create for yourself.


_________________
Yours sincerely, some dude.


nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

27 Jul 2015, 4:00 pm

Beau wrote:
No, you don't have to settle; you do have choices.


I believe this. No one needs to be around an alcoholic - especially a child. If not for you, you need to think if this person is right to be around your child. I personally wouldn't accept anyone who smokes - ever, the crap stinks and I don't need future respiratory issues. Alcohol is the same - social drinker only. I believe I'm better off alone than "settling" with a certain behavior - and I don't mean Aspie behaviors - I mean behaviors that anyone can have.


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


nurseangela
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,017
Location: Kansas

27 Jul 2015, 4:02 pm

Tori0326 wrote:
I do love her, actually. It's just sometimes she has put me through hell with her drinking. She is not a happy drunk, she is a dark, angry drunk. She's a war veteran and she usually talks about the war and/or picks a fight with me when she's drunk.

She got a good scare back during the holidays. She went to a Christmas party for her work and I took my son and his friend from next door to the movies. She was supposed to go with us but didn't come home in time and wasn't answering her phone. Her sister went looking for her and found her totally smashed in the parking lot of the hotel the party was at. She took her to her house and left her, thinking she'd sleep it off. Well, instead she decided to walk the mile to our house and apparently got clipped by a car on the dark road, from her account. When I arrived home with the boys she was all cut up and bleeding and still drunk. She was upset and not making any sense. I had to take the boys next door and take her to the emergency room.

She has not gotten drunk like that since, so I am hopeful, but she refuses to stop drinking altogether so I don't know if I truly believe episodes like that will ever end entirely. I want to do what's best for my son but I'm not sure what that is. Her family is great, she's the black sheep. I hate the thought of taking him away from them because they're family to him. I just also hate knowing some of things he's experienced because of her.


I just read this - she'd be gone (and don't let the door hit her on the way out.)


_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.


Malaise
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2015
Age: 36
Posts: 224
Location: MN

27 Jul 2015, 6:21 pm

I think settling is the wrong idea. If you're with someone who doesn't mesh well with you and isn't going to make you happy if you commit to staying together, it's not a matter of who's worth how much. Relationships aren't weighed solely by points earned via appearance, accomplishments, etc, where anyone who doesn't outrank the other is obligated to stay.