Not all virgins are ugly misogynist clueless idiots.

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I'm tired of being talked down all the time for not having sex with women. I'm not the stereotypical neckbeard obese pimply face geek who thinks that women are objects, and bla bla bla.

How old are you? What evidence do you have to support the fact that you're not aneckbeard?

I can accept I'm ugly, clueless and an idiot, but I'm not a misogynist. However, if you've never had any significant relationship with a woman, it seems impossible to talk about anything related to women at all without systematically getting your words twisted to make you look like the worst woman hater in the world, in addition to entitled and a would-be rapist.

1. One cannot prove a negative
2. Nobody said all male virgins were this and that. Life is unfair; a man who's 18 and still a virgin is a loser -- a woman who's 30 and still a virgin can claim that she's "saving herself for the right one" and get a away with it (even if it's for completely different reasons). Instead of trying to launch a crusade against this double standards, find a way to work around your social awkwardness and a way to cover up your virginity (even if it means lying).

Many ladies think that I look like a 16 year old clueless dummy, but I'm not a misogynist.

I could care less if my current GF cheats on me and vice-versa.

And not all ugly misogynist clueless idiots are virgins.

And not all virgin heterosexual men are just too darn nice to get laid or a girlfriend. Just as not all men getting laid, be it one night stands at the local meat market or within a solid relationship, are strutting buffoonish alpha male jerks. And not all women can get a relationship, or a date, or laid at the drop of their dainty handkerchief. Though one would be forgiven for thinking otherwise from reading this sub-forum.

It's almost as though one's perception of the world can be skewed by what one thinks they are missing out on. The couple who can't conceive see pregnant women, and parents pushing buggies, everywhere; sees them being fed-up with their toddlers ('we'd never do that!'). The balding man sees thick, healthy locks in abundance (better yet, sees what could be thick, healthy locks cut short and close. The waste!). The woman whose dog has just died is sure there's suddenly a lot more people walking theirs.

Come now. A 30 year old man can say that, with pretty much the same reception (a mixture of 'I don't understand this, but I respect it' and sniggering).

To be honest, what evidence do YOU actually have to support the fact that you're not a neckbeard?

Whoever said virgins were? Many are "regular" people in the greater western culture abusing their partners.

Its called a mirror.

The title of this thread is so true it seems pointless to debate it. There are so many reasons and not all negative ones. We live in a society that values instant gratification and if you are ambling along taking your own time that's kind of a misunderstood way to be.

Strangely enough when I was younger I would look at older people who weren't dating or in a relationship and wonder what in the world they were thinking. Make a move! You're life is slipping past you! (This was when I was 18/19 and I knew older people in their late 20s and early 30s)

Now I'm older I realise that it's better to be alone than be with the wrong person and I respect people who take their time. Conversely, I also respect people who find what they want when they are young and seize the moment and tell that crush how much they like them. There's no right or wrong time frame, you've got to be true to who you are.

Shyness and lack of confidence in perfectly nice people is a huge thing that holds a lot of people back from making a move as well, which is a shame because I do know some very nice people who are just not confident in dating who could probably find someone, they just don't feel attractive or confident enough, and that's not something that can be fixed over night. It takes time and patience and a bit of effort and bravery to try new things and meet new people.

Also ill health can be a factor. I am just trying to keep a job and keep a roof over my head, socialising is too difficult/tiring for me at the moment and dating is just not feasible at the moment for me.

I've been accused of being a misogynist on this forum when I was making frustrated posts about my bad luck getting women. In reality I'm sort of a feminist. My 2nd girlfriend was a feminist & we got along well in that aspect.

Just had to Google what a 'neckbeard' was. You learn something new every day, lol.

Yes, but what about KingMiss?

Do you guys realize that the term virgin is an utterly social construct? If so, how could it plausibly elicit misogynistic tendencies? There is no debate that misognyism is an inherently wrongful and prejudicialy espoused frame of mind, but trying to form a base assumption that being a virgin is the cause of misogynistic beliefs is blanket statement and a obvious logical fallacy. Many people, even married people are capable of holding mysoginistic attitudes.

Fallacies wouldn’t be so widely used if they didn’t work.

I think the term virginity comes out of religious idea. They use that word to reference no sex before marriage. That doesn't mean we are ugly misogynist clueless idiots. The religious era of our previous generations are the people we like today. So, these religious would assume people who have sex before marriage would be ugly misogynist clueless idiots.

I am not a religious person but I can tell from their perspective on this. I seen ugly people gets sex as much as good looking person.

Please don't use those words again. Its attacking on humanity.