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22 Jan 2016, 1:54 am

I've been texting this guy in an effort to get to know him. I can see he looks at my messages but he doesn't write back. I see that he was just on. But he still hasn't written back. He finally does and it's nothing that I can really build a conversation off of cause it's a one word answer. Or I ask him something and he dismisses it. So then I stopped trying. And then he asks me if I want to talk on skype tonight..."unless I'm boring you". So, am I being paranoid here or is he trying to guilt-trip me in some way? He skyped me and since I didn't answer he's just like, "Neverfuckingmind". Am I supposed to feel guilty to that too? I didn't even say anything about him not answering me. There's literally no reason for him to be talking to me like this, that I can tell. I kind of don't want to talk to him at all anymore cause it's becoming more and more obvious to me that anyone who doesn't jerk off his ego hard enough becomes an enemy? Do I really care? I think he's had like, 5 girlfriends in the last 3-4 years. Is there a goddamned common denominator here? I have a hard time telling if I'm really being rude or if a person is manipulating me into being their court jester or something by pulling on my guilt-strings... I don't know. Any input is appreciated.


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22 Jan 2016, 2:32 am

ritualdrama wrote:
I've been texting this guy in an effort to get to know him. I can see he looks at my messages but he doesn't write back. I see that he was just on. But he still hasn't written back. He finally does and it's nothing that I can really build a conversation off of cause it's a one word answer. Or I ask him something and he dismisses it. So then I stopped trying. And then he asks me if I want to talk on skype tonight..."unless I'm boring you". So, am I being paranoid here or is he trying to guilt-trip me in some way? He skyped me and since I didn't answer he's just like, "Neverfuckingmind". Am I supposed to feel guilty to that too? I didn't even say anything about him not answering me. There's literally no reason for him to be talking to me like this, that I can tell. I kind of don't want to talk to him at all anymore cause it's becoming more and more obvious to me that anyone who doesn't jerk off his ego hard enough becomes an enemy? Do I really care? I think he's had like, 5 girlfriends in the last 3-4 years. Is there a goddamned common denominator here? I have a hard time telling if I'm really being rude or if a person is manipulating me into being their court jester or something by pulling on my guilt-strings... I don't know. Any input is appreciated.


Eugene Oregon? If so you'd be the first other aspie I've seen from here.

I'm not sure, hard to know without seeing the conversation. Though I'm also too trusting so I suck at seeing if people are manipulating or not. Hope someone more knowledgeable comes along.



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22 Jan 2016, 2:36 am

sly279 wrote:
ritualdrama wrote:
I've been texting this guy in an effort to get to know him. I can see he looks at my messages but he doesn't write back. I see that he was just on. But he still hasn't written back. He finally does and it's nothing that I can really build a conversation off of cause it's a one word answer. Or I ask him something and he dismisses it. So then I stopped trying. And then he asks me if I want to talk on skype tonight..."unless I'm boring you". So, am I being paranoid here or is he trying to guilt-trip me in some way? He skyped me and since I didn't answer he's just like, "Neverfuckingmind". Am I supposed to feel guilty to that too? I didn't even say anything about him not answering me. There's literally no reason for him to be talking to me like this, that I can tell. I kind of don't want to talk to him at all anymore cause it's becoming more and more obvious to me that anyone who doesn't jerk off his ego hard enough becomes an enemy? Do I really care? I think he's had like, 5 girlfriends in the last 3-4 years. Is there a goddamned common denominator here? I have a hard time telling if I'm really being rude or if a person is manipulating me into being their court jester or something by pulling on my guilt-strings... I don't know. Any input is appreciated.


Eugene Oregon? If so you'd be the first other aspie I've seen from here.

I'm not sure, hard to know without seeing the conversation. Though I'm also too trusting so I suck at seeing if people are manipulating or not. Hope someone more knowledgeable comes along.


Yes, Eugene.

There wasn't much conversation leading up to it. Just me asking how he was and him telling me and me saying I wish I could help and then him not talking to me and then suddenly being like, "...if I'm boring you" but I didn't do or say anything for him to think that. I'm suspicious if it's a situation where a person just constantly wants attention. Or to know that someone wants their attention all the time. And it goes from not much conversation to swearing at me? What the F


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22 Jan 2016, 2:50 am

I had an online friend who did those things to me. He would tell me how boring he is and how I think he is boring when I never even said he was. He would also get upset if I didn't talk enough and he would always log off. I am sure these were his manipulation tactics because I found out how manipulative he was just by reading our chat history and he claimed I told him things so I looked and I saw I never said them so I am sure the other things he said were just tactics and they didn't work with me. And because they didn't work with me, he finally got aggressive with his words so I blocked him since he told me he was taking me off his friends list and he wouldn't so I did it for him. I also blocked him on Facebook because it was pretty obvious he just wanted to argue and insult me, throwing a tantrum I call it. All because I didn't want to be his online mommy after he had kept pressuring me to be and I gave in and then finally decided to stand up for myself and say no. He also had two online mommies who also just disappeared because they never came back online. I am sure him saying the other one came back was just one of his lies to manipulate me and that also didn't work because I had blocked him. But he sure acted like a narcissist.


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22 Jan 2016, 3:08 am

You can try to over-analyze and reverse-engineer words/timing to weigh intentions vs. imbalance, but chances are that you would be better off surrounding yourself with people that don't force you to think like that or on that level of insecurity. Manipulation or Unintentional, he doesn't seem like a good person to build a relationship with if you're sensitive to things like this.

You'll often find that the best relationships are sparked by shared/mutually accepted flaws and insecurities. Just don't let your own insecurities and desire for solidarity force you into a bad situation.



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22 Jan 2016, 3:12 am

League_Girl wrote:
throwing a tantrum I call it.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

He also does this thing where he tries to say that I am depressed when I haven't told him how I'm feeling in that moment. Or he has tried to say that I was off and he once said without doubt that something was worrying me and I'm just like, "Umm, I can't really think of anything."

He also says that he wants me to be his band manager and that he's going to pay me $150 a night or something. Does friendship need to be sold?


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22 Jan 2016, 3:14 am

mitchel wrote:
You can try to over-analyze and reverse-engineer words/timing to weigh intentions vs. imbalance, but chances are that you would be better off surrounding yourself with people that don't force you to think like that or on that level of insecurity. Manipulation or Unintentional, he doesn't seem like a good person to build a relationship with if you're sensitive to things like this.

You'll often find that the best relationships are sparked by shared/mutually accepted flaws and insecurities. Just don't let your own insecurities and desire for solidarity force you into a bad situation.


Thank you. I was also thinking that if I even have to think of this then that's probably a sign that he's not the friend (or whatever he's trying to be) for me.


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22 Jan 2016, 3:39 am

You got it! Also!

Realize that very few people are 'as advertised' in any capacity online. When you start measuring people by their actions and comparing them to their own words, it's pretty easy to see who is real and who isn't. This deviation from reality is why online relationships are fleeting in most cases.



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22 Jan 2016, 3:54 am

Yeah...I'm also over people I barely know trying to win me over by telling me how "awesome" I am.


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22 Jan 2016, 4:51 pm

It's hard to say whether or not he's being manipulative. Either way, his behavior is riddled with redflags and it's probably best to stay away from him. On the bright side, I bet you could find plenty of cool guys that would love the trade messages with you on WP.



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22 Jan 2016, 5:04 pm

It may or may not be conscious manipulation, but the effect is much the same either way. Fingers crossed, in time he'll become aware of his behaviour and it'll stop. In the meantime, I'll add my voice to the others saying to just walk away.


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22 Jan 2016, 7:06 pm

I don't think it's manipulation. I've done that to people when I was distracted. I was quick to assume I was boring people cuz I thought I was boring & I have been called boring by people in the past.


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24 Jan 2016, 7:29 pm

It sounds like he is in the wrong. I don't see how you did anything wrong to deserve his anger.