Science proves love doesn't Exist

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13 Apr 2016, 9:41 pm

http://www.vice.com/read/science-says-love-doesnt-exist Its true, love is fake and a lie as well as a waste of time, nothing but chemical reactions!


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13 Apr 2016, 10:28 pm

Then almost everything is fake, because chemical reacations are all around us.

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Love is just a behavior acted out by choice, because of forces within society. It means something to us not because it's a tangible thing that exists but because we've agreed to pretend it exists, like money, or Christmas.


Choice? I'm not 100% sure about that, when I met my Fiance, I had 0 choice in the matter. I didn't want to fall in love, but I did. Yes I could have avoided her, but the fact I fell for her had already been established.

What forces? If that was true those of us who are distant / rebel / exceptions / ND etc.. from society, would not care about love. This forum proves that is wrong.

For the record money is completely tangible. A better analogy would have been time.

This is a poorly written article, most likely written by someone going through a divorce or that was cheated on or is unable to find love, needing an outlet or to justify there inadequate love life.



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13 Apr 2016, 10:35 pm

As far as I know, most of our emotions are associated with chemical reactions. Nothing new.



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13 Apr 2016, 10:46 pm

UnturnedStone wrote:
Then almost everything is fake, because chemical reacations are all around us.

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Love is just a behavior acted out by choice, because of forces within society. It means something to us not because it's a tangible thing that exists but because we've agreed to pretend it exists, like money, or Christmas.


This is a poorly written article, most likely written by someone going through a divorce or that was cheated on or is unable to find love, needing an outlet or to justify there inadequate love life.


Ad hominems aside, does this person also believe that friendships don't exist? That hate doesn't exist? You can't tell someone their feelings don't exist. From the lowest to the highest on our spectrum, we all have some sort of feelings.

As for chemicals/pheromones/body odors/endorphins/whatever, I think some of these people have cause and effect reversed.


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14 Apr 2016, 2:58 am

What exactly makes chemical reactions fake? everything is chemicals technically. If anything I see it as confirming it is real and not an imagined state of feeling.


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14 Apr 2016, 3:15 am

Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth.



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14 Apr 2016, 3:23 am

Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth. Muhahaha.



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14 Apr 2016, 6:35 am

First of all, the writer of that blog cited in the OP is Jonathan Kolia "Jon" Favreau, an American actor, filmmaker and comedian. He is NOT a scientist.

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth.
Wrong. The non-existence of something cannot be proven. Whoever says otherwise either does not understand science, or is practicing "bad" science.

HOWEVER, if the effects of the existence of a thing are indistinguishable from the non-existence of a thing, then it is safe to say that the thing does not exist, whether or not it actually does exist.

Finally, emotions are our bodies' measurable responses to internal chemical reactions. So are our senses. One may as well say that vision doesn't exist because the process of converting light to electrical impulses is "merely" a chemical reaction - yet, I can see.

a. Love is a chemical reaction.
b. Chemical reactions exist.
: : Love exists.

QED


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14 Apr 2016, 7:02 am

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Science proves love doesn't Exist

i loved science, but now it has proven that love does not exist, i distrust science because i only trust what i love, and since i apparently do not love science, i do not trust that it is correct that love does not exist, and so i do not believe that i do not love science.



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14 Apr 2016, 7:13 am

Fnord wrote:
First of all, the writer of that blog cited in the OP is Jonathan Kolia "Jon" Favreau, an American actor, filmmaker and comedian. He is NOT a scientist.

Second ...
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth.
Wrong. The non-existence of something cannot be proven. Whoever says otherwise either does not understand science, or is practicing "bad" science.

HOWEVER, if the effects of the existence of a thing are indistinguishable from the non-existence of a thing, then it is safe to say that the thing does not exist, whether or not it actually does exist.

Finally, emotions are our bodies' measurable responses to internal chemical reactions. So are our senses. One may as well say that vision doesn't exist because the process of converting light to electrical impulses is "merely" a chemical reaction - yet, I can see.

a. Love is a chemical reaction.
b. Chemical reactions exist.
: : Love exists.

QED


Well, fine, fine...I know the analogy, tea pot in space and all this s**t....

So far.....we are just carbon creatures crawling here. :|



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14 Apr 2016, 7:15 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth.
That is true, actually that is true for all of us.


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14 Apr 2016, 7:22 am

When your in love with someone, its not love, its just increased amounts of oxytocin. It is natures ploy to get you to mate that is all. So in a sense nobodies in love with another it is just increased amounts of oxytocin, nothing more nothing less.Image


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14 Apr 2016, 7:32 am

there is a sense of "aloneness" that is ameliorated by company sometimes.
i have a cat that is always jealous when i ignore her and look at my computer screen.
she gets up on the table and rubs her face over my hand with the mouse in it and i look at her and i know i could not live without her, and she knows and i need her to be in my life.



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14 Apr 2016, 7:39 am

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14 Apr 2016, 7:48 am

Fnord wrote:
First of all, the writer of that blog cited in the OP is Jonathan Kolia "Jon" Favreau, an American actor, filmmaker and comedian. He is NOT a scientist.

Second ...
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Science also proves that your soul doesn't exist either, AspieOtaku, you are just a carbon creature dwelling on earth.
Wrong. The non-existence of something cannot be proven. Whoever says otherwise either does not understand science, or is practicing "bad" science.

HOWEVER, if the effects of the existence of a thing are indistinguishable from the non-existence of a thing, then it is safe to say that the thing does not exist, whether or not it actually does exist.

Finally, emotions are our bodies' measurable responses to internal chemical reactions. So are our senses. One may as well say that vision doesn't exist because the process of converting light to electrical impulses is "merely" a chemical reaction - yet, I can see.

a. Love is a chemical reaction.
b. Chemical reactions exist.
: : Love exists.

QED


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14 Apr 2016, 2:44 pm

Actually love does exist there was a study between two types of voles one type was polyamourous and the other monogamous. The monogamous voles had more oxytocin receptors and there fore felt love towards their partners.

Please also check if there is a scientific reference when you read articles as they often misunderstand results of experiments