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Alliekit
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16 May 2016, 6:50 pm

This isn't a generalisation or anything just a curiousity I wondered what opinions people would have on.

I noticed it has been suggested that ND girls should stick to ND guys. What is your opinion do you think they should date NDs, NTs, or not worry about it?

Also why do you feel that way? I just was just insanely curious about your thoughts on this.



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16 May 2016, 8:10 pm

No, I don't agree with any sort of enforced segregation.

An ND girl might find an NT guy, for example, to be a fine complement. He might be better with the social aspects of things; and she might be better with the creative aspects. If both have a similar philosophy of life, they can have a great relationship, get married, etc.

An NT girl (yes, I've seen this quite a bit) frequently likes ND guys because it brings out some sort of maternal instinct. This might be unhealthy--or it might be great. Maybe the ND guy needs nurturing, since he might hardly get nurturing from his own family. On the flip side, the NT girl admires the ND guy because of his logical take on things, which complements her own whimsical take on things.

Of course, people of the "same" neurology frequently get along as well--probably, at times, for similar reasons.



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16 May 2016, 8:44 pm

I don't think that anyone should be reduced to a "ND" or "NT" label. There are plenty of unique people out there, and if you pass up someone because of some silly preconceived notion like that, then you might end up losing a perfectly good match. People who are both ND and NT encompass an entire spectrum, full of just about every personality type imaginable.



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16 May 2016, 8:47 pm

Yep....that, too! :D



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17 May 2016, 12:03 am

Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.



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17 May 2016, 12:31 am

sly279 wrote:
Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.


Who? What? Where?



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17 May 2016, 1:23 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.


Who? What? Where?


I am certainly not going to listen to the Research Design and Standards organisation when it comes to my love life. They can stick to railways.



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17 May 2016, 1:25 am

No, I don't agree either. Everyone is different. Plus, how are you meant to meet someone else on the spectrum? As you get older the dating pool gets smaller as it is, without adding any other restrictions.



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17 May 2016, 1:58 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.


Who? What? Where?


He's a member here always posting about nd and how they should keep to their own are are so much better then nts etc. it's why she started this post I think, because he told a aspire lady she should only date other nds



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17 May 2016, 2:05 am

sly279 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.


Who? What? Where?


He's a member here always posting about nd and how they should keep to their own are are so much better then nts etc. it's why she started this post I think, because he told a aspire lady she should only date other nds


Woosh

You spelled his username wrong. It was a joke.



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17 May 2016, 2:35 am

It shouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. If 2 people complement each other in life they should be together :)


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17 May 2016, 4:52 am

sly279 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Best to ignore rdso he thinks aspires are a elite race of non modern humans.


Who? What? Where?


He's a member here always posting about nd and how they should keep to their own are are so much better then nts etc. it's why she started this post I think, because he told a aspire lady she should only date other nds


Your right Sly :). I was just curious on everyones thoughts about it



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17 May 2016, 6:14 am

Wow, I hinted that maybe ND girls would increase their success by being more natural and learning to detect NDs, and now everybody just goes crazy. :roll:

I think the major problem with aspies is not so much that they fail in social situations, but rather that they can be misled so easily and then refuse to reconsider their positions using rational thought. We've heard this many times before: Aspies are rational human beings that are not controlled by emotions. Wrong. Aspies are incredibly irrational in the dating context, because they know their method doesn't work, yet they refuse to try something better. Because somebody, be it friends, parents, teachers or somebody else, have told them how (NTs) form relationship with sex and dating, so that's how it works. For everybody. Period. The fact that it doesn't work for them is just something temporary that could be fixed. With the strong will typical of aspies they will still succeed in the end, because it's just a big number game anyway. So they continue in the same old tracks until they die.

Besides, there is not much human variation in personality traits that cannot be linked to neurodiversity. 70% of human diversity is linked to neurodiversity. So people that claim they will meet an NT with some "odd" traits they fancy are just fooling themselves. These traits are very likely ND traits, which of course could be part of some NTs, but that are much easier found in NDs.

I'm also not denying that complementary traits is a good thing. It's just that complementary relationship traits is not. So you can in fact get together with somebody with complementary traits even if you prefer only people that work like NDs in the relationship area. This even seems to be rather common too.



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17 May 2016, 6:45 am

You Hinted! You constantly go on and on about it. We've got the point where we're all like just shut the hell up already!



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17 May 2016, 7:12 am

hurtloam wrote:
You Hinted! You constantly go on and on about it. We've got the point where we're all like just shut the hell up already!


Wrong. I've said this many times to guys before, and there has been nobody screaming at me. This time, I suggested that girls would "wise up", and I suppose that isn't as popular. Still, I don't think ND girls are all without problems in dating, and many of them end up in abusive relationships. Ending up in abusive relationships is typically an effect of ignoring red-flags, and NDs seeking NTs is a *huge* red-flag.



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17 May 2016, 7:19 am

rdos wrote:
Wow, I hinted that maybe ND girls would increase their success by being more natural and learning to detect NDs, and now everybody just goes crazy. :roll:

I think the major problem with aspies is not so much that they fail in social situations, but rather that they can be misled so easily and then refuse to reconsider their positions using rational thought. We've heard this many times before: Aspies are rational human beings that are not controlled by emotions. Wrong. Aspies are incredibly irrational in the dating context, because they know their method doesn't work, yet they refuse to try something better. Because somebody, be it friends, parents, teachers or somebody else, have told them how (NTs) form relationship with sex and dating, so that's how it works. For everybody. Period. The fact that it doesn't work for them is just something temporary that could be fixed. With the strong will typical of aspies they will still succeed in the end, because it's just a big number game anyway. So they continue in the same old tracks until they die.

Besides, there is not much human variation in personality traits that cannot be linked to neurodiversity. 70% of human diversity is linked to neurodiversity. So people that claim they will meet an NT with some "odd" traits they fancy are just fooling themselves. These traits are very likely ND traits, which of course could be part of some NTs, but that are much easier found in NDs.

I'm also not denying that complementary traits is a good thing. It's just that complementary relationship traits is not. So you can in fact get together with somebody with complementary traits even if you prefer only people that work like NDs in the relationship area. This even seems to be rather common too.


I should say that this post wasn't made directly because of what you have said. Just that some of your post sparked my curiosity is all. You are entitled to your opinions.

May I ask do you believe that NT and ND relasionships don't work?

In your opinion so you belive NDs should stick to NDs and NTs stick to NTS?

Just to clarify this is just me being curious not argumentative