What Women Want
The world of dating is a weird, weird world. That's why so many horror stories come from it. Less horror stories come from actual horror novels than the world of real-world dating, and that fact is disturbing to anyone who puts a feeler out to the real world of men meeting women, women meeting men, and same genders meeting other same-gendered people. Or any other variation we might've missed. It's all basically frightening and can scar you for life if you let it - you've probably met somebody that's been incredibly burned by the dating scene. It's not a pretty sight.
1. Women want to date good men.
They say 10% of the men that are out there get 90% of the women. Why? Because they're the alpha males of the group. They have the pick of the women they want, while the rest of us shuffle our feet around and play the 'nice guy'. They don't have to. They already have the interest, and just have to parlay it into coordinating the proper logistics and pushing physical escalation forward. Sucks, doesn't it? Not really, because once you learn what it is women are after, you can actively make yourself into the type of person that can add value to them instead of taking it away. You can stop being that guy who takes things away from people, and start being the guy who adds. It's entirely fixable.
2. Women want to date men who are leaders.
This is more subtle, but if someone is projecting influence on the group, that's the person everyone's going to be attracted to. In a loud group, the quiet one is viewed as the odd one out and the attractive one. In a quiet group, the loud one is the same way. The person who can influence everyone's actions and gets the most attention, the person that people defer to is generally the leader. You can be a leader. Stop being the quietest, most timid version of yourself, and live up to the promise of the image that you have in your head. Instead of thinking about what the proper thing to do in a given situation is, think about what the best version of yourself would do, and simply follow suit.
3. Don't be afraid of getting sexual.
One of the biggest problems that you see again and again with guys that are going out is that they get the girls interested in them, then don't know what to do once the energy in a conversation shifts in a different direction. Girls want to be sexual. Otherwise, they'd have no use for us men. They'd just sit at home, doing whatever it is that brings them joy, but there's something in them - just like us - that makes them want to ravage the men they find attractive. You just have to be that attractive man. So, when the best version of yourself is faced with a girl who is hanging around you, trying to be alone with you, etc. etc. - what is he going to do? He's going to step up his game and bring it to the next level is what he's going to do. Isolate her, and start up an escalation ladder. Either one that you've heard about before, or one that works for you.
Please don't make posts about what "women" want: women are individuals and want different things from one to the next. "What women want" is to have men stop thinking of us as a monolithic hive-mind entity and instead see us as individual human beings.
_________________
"Ego non immanis, sed mea immanis telum." ~ Ares, God of War
(Note to Moderators: my warning number is wrong on my profile but apparently can't be fixed so I will note here that it is actually 2, not 3--the warning issued to me on Aug 20 2016 was a mistake but I've been told it can't be removed.)
1. Women want to date good men.
They say 10% of the men that are out there get 90% of the women. Why? Because they're the alpha males of the group. They have the pick of the women they want, while the rest of us shuffle our feet around and play the 'nice guy'. They don't have to. They already have the interest, and just have to parlay it into coordinating the proper logistics and pushing physical escalation forward. Sucks, doesn't it? Not really, because once you learn what it is women are after, you can actively make yourself into the type of person that can add value to them instead of taking it away. You can stop being that guy who takes things away from people, and start being the guy who adds. It's entirely fixable.
2. Women want to date men who are leaders.
This is more subtle, but if someone is projecting influence on the group, that's the person everyone's going to be attracted to. In a loud group, the quiet one is viewed as the odd one out and the attractive one. In a quiet group, the loud one is the same way. The person who can influence everyone's actions and gets the most attention, the person that people defer to is generally the leader. You can be a leader. Stop being the quietest, most timid version of yourself, and live up to the promise of the image that you have in your head. Instead of thinking about what the proper thing to do in a given situation is, think about what the best version of yourself would do, and simply follow suit.
3. Don't be afraid of getting sexual.
One of the biggest problems that you see again and again with guys that are going out is that they get the girls interested in them, then don't know what to do once the energy in a conversation shifts in a different direction. Girls want to be sexual. Otherwise, they'd have no use for us men. They'd just sit at home, doing whatever it is that brings them joy, but there's something in them - just like us - that makes them want to ravage the men they find attractive. You just have to be that attractive man. So, when the best version of yourself is faced with a girl who is hanging around you, trying to be alone with you, etc. etc. - what is he going to do? He's going to step up his game and bring it to the next level is what he's going to do. Isolate her, and start up an escalation ladder. Either one that you've heard about before, or one that works for you.
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
1. Women want to date good men.
They say 10% of the men that are out there get 90% of the women. Why? Because they're the alpha males of the group. They have the pick of the women they want, while the rest of us shuffle our feet around and play the 'nice guy'. They don't have to. They already have the interest, and just have to parlay it into coordinating the proper logistics and pushing physical escalation forward. Sucks, doesn't it? Not really, because once you learn what it is women are after, you can actively make yourself into the type of person that can add value to them instead of taking it away. You can stop being that guy who takes things away from people, and start being the guy who adds. It's entirely fixable.
2. Women want to date men who are leaders.
This is more subtle, but if someone is projecting influence on the group, that's the person everyone's going to be attracted to. In a loud group, the quiet one is viewed as the odd one out and the attractive one. In a quiet group, the loud one is the same way. The person who can influence everyone's actions and gets the most attention, the person that people defer to is generally the leader. You can be a leader. Stop being the quietest, most timid version of yourself, and live up to the promise of the image that you have in your head. Instead of thinking about what the proper thing to do in a given situation is, think about what the best version of yourself would do, and simply follow suit.
3. Don't be afraid of getting sexual.
One of the biggest problems that you see again and again with guys that are going out is that they get the girls interested in them, then don't know what to do once the energy in a conversation shifts in a different direction. Girls want to be sexual. Otherwise, they'd have no use for us men. They'd just sit at home, doing whatever it is that brings them joy, but there's something in them - just like us - that makes them want to ravage the men they find attractive. You just have to be that attractive man. So, when the best version of yourself is faced with a girl who is hanging around you, trying to be alone with you, etc. etc. - what is he going to do? He's going to step up his game and bring it to the next level is what he's going to do. Isolate her, and start up an escalation ladder. Either one that you've heard about before, or one that works for you.
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
I'm confused--are you saying the OP shows signs of the above, or that women are looking for narcissistic psychopaths?
_________________
"Ego non immanis, sed mea immanis telum." ~ Ares, God of War
(Note to Moderators: my warning number is wrong on my profile but apparently can't be fixed so I will note here that it is actually 2, not 3--the warning issued to me on Aug 20 2016 was a mistake but I've been told it can't be removed.)
Sweetleaf
Veteran
Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
wow what a relief now I know what I want...
I actually tend to prefer fellow 'odd ones out' and don't really see the whole 'alpha male' image as very attractive...also its not very compatible with humans, makes a lot more sense when applied to wolves and dogs.
_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.
I actually tend to prefer fellow 'odd ones out' and don't really see the whole 'alpha male' image as very attractive...also its not very compatible with humans, makes a lot more sense when applied to wolves and dogs.
_________________
"Embrace the glorious mess that you are."
Last edited by Drawyer on 05 Aug 2016, 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sweetleaf
Veteran
Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
I actually tend to prefer fellow 'odd ones out' and don't really see the whole 'alpha male' image as very attractive...also its not very compatible with humans, makes a lot more sense when applied to wolves and dogs.
My boyfriend is a bit more outgoing than me for sure, but he certainly wasn't your sterotypical 'alpha, thinks they can get whatever women they want wether the feeling is mutual or not' types that the O.P suggests women by default like. Those seem the ones most likely to use females for sex and discard them.
_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.
^ I figured out that there will be a lot of different types of extroverts..not all of them will be too scary to me based on what you said above. The right person for you seems to have discovered you. He's so lucky to have you around.
_________________
"Embrace the glorious mess that you are."
How exactly are we so different? You don't get to escape the law of the jungle just by developing a big, power-hungry brain.
_________________
The red lake has been forgotten. A dust devil stuns you long enough to shroud forever those last shards of wisdom. The breeze rocking this forlorn wasteland whispers in your ears, “Não resta mais que uma sombra”.
I don't care what women in general want, I don't want women that are into dating, want to be led or dominated or want a lot of sex. I'm sure "my" type of women exist too, so what the OP presents is not "what women want", but mostly "what many NT women want", which is kind of irrelevant.
How exactly are we so different? You don't get to escape the law of the jungle just by developing a big, power-hungry brain.
NDs have no adaptations for the jungle or for handling group violence. That's a unique feature of NTs only.
Sweetleaf
Veteran
Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
How exactly are we so different? You don't get to escape the law of the jungle just by developing a big, power-hungry brain.
All an alpha is, is the pack leader.....I don't see that being a consistent theme when people speak of alpha humans. A bunch of frat type college guys who get laid all the time isn't really what I view as a pack leader, keeping it's pack together, leading the hunts and fighting challengers who try to take his place.
_________________
Tis the time to melt the Ice.
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 44
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,664
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.

