Experiment : a proof of how messed up online dating is.
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PS: Before you say that I have too much time on my hands, the whole thing doesn't take more time you spend on many of your long posts in L&D and P&R here on WP. And this experiment was done gradually in my free times. So husssh!!
So I conducted the experiment on like 15 girls on a dating app called Skout - it is basically like Tinder except you're given the chance to send first a "chat request" to profiles you select, if the chat request is accepted by the receiver you can continue chatting, if not, you get automatically blocked.
So these 15 girls were one who declined my chat requests from my real account with my real picture of me on the beach.
So I went over and created a second fake account, with a picture of a six-packed muscled big guy on the beach.
https://www.fitnessfreaks.com/media/ima ... 00x600.jpg
and I sent chat requests to these 15 girls. They all accepted the requests, every single one of them.
Then after just two lines of chat, i tell them "Look, I ll be honest, this isn't my real picture in the profile, this is me: " and send them my real picture, the same one used in my real account.
and they ALL responded with something like "Oh, you're cute / handsome, why are you using a fake picture in profile?"
and I replied to them all with the same remark "O really? But you did decline my real profile with this same exact photo that you are complimenting now."
Here, they all responded in the same manners (as if they are all programmed the same) their responses were so much on the defensive , bombarding me with lines and lines of justifications, something like "Don't think wrong of me, I am not shallow, I just sometimes randomly accept and decline chat requests....bla bla" , "I receive tons of chat requests, I probably declined you by mistake....bla bla" ...etc some even went far to say that the guy in the fake photo looks disgusting and I am actually more of their type ( Yeah right yet why they accepted the request from the fake profile while declining my real profile? ).
Obviously, no one of them was honest enough to say something like "I declined you because you are not hunk like the guy in the fake photo" or "I declined you because you didn't catch my eye like the guy in your fake pic " - I would have respected that, totally.
They all tried so hard to make it sound that it was an unintended decision and they are not shallow at all.
-So I simply ended the conversations with all of them in the same manner "Look, honestly I don't buy it, just be honest and say that you are seeking for model-like guys; it's ok, have a nice day".
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Few days later, I logged again in my real account, and to my surprise .... 9 out of 15 of these girls sent me chat requests, and the only way for them to be able to do so is removing me first from their block list first (because they declined my chat requests before, therefore I was added on their block list).
I accepted all their requests because I was curious to see why they went through all this trouble to chase my real account;
guess what?
They kept trying to convince me that they didn't intend the decline.
I kept chatting with them, and some even went flirty and bold O.o.
If it wasn't for my fake profile, no communication would have been possible with any of them!
PS: And oh btw, those girls don't look models at all, just regular girls you see everyday in the street.
So you see guys? You see how crazy and messed up the dating apps are?
Typical dating advice:
"Just be confident. Girl's like confident guys! No woman would want to date a negative person who hates themselves and feels unconfident in themselves!"
Evidence against this hypothesis:
A Tinder experiment posted on Bodybuilding.com Misc section by this guy here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =165905221
Pictures:
Relevant:
I've been trying to talk about the importance of physical fitness on some of the other threads on here and a lot of people don't believe me. 90% of being attractive is being physically fit. It's really quite simple. Do strenuous exercise for 40 minutes a day for five days a week and cut your calories to about 1600/day and you will very quickly lose weight. Keep doing this for six months to a year (or more if you are morbidly obese) and then adjust your calorie count upward once you reach your goal weight. If you want to be more muscular, start a weight training program at a serious gym (Not Planet Fitness or any of the other pathetic joke chain gyms). Then, enjoy all the women who are now really attracted to you.
It's a simple process, but it's difficult to do, because losing weight and getting fit is really uncomfortable and sometimes really painful. You have to have really strong will power to do it. But it is absolutely worth it.
It's a simple process, but it's difficult to do, because losing weight and getting fit is really uncomfortable and sometimes really painful. You have to have really strong will power to do it. But it is absolutely worth it.
Is the attention from those kinds of girls really worth it? As soon as you get a bit chubby or start slacking they'll be gone to the next best guy.
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It's a simple process, but it's difficult to do, because losing weight and getting fit is really uncomfortable and sometimes really painful. You have to have really strong will power to do it. But it is absolutely worth it.
I do believe you. But physical fitness is not just being muscular.
You should just say 'being muscular' is important rather than saying physical fitness is important, because there are plenty of physically fit people who are not muscular.
One of the greatest tennis players in the world has a body like this:

One of the greatest distance runners in history looks like this:

The world's fastest swimmer looks like this:

So, would these FIT men be attractive to women, especially without the money and fame and if they both had Asperger's? I'd think not.
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What it really bothered me from this experiment is the lack of honesty, and the thought of me will naively believe their non-convincing justifications.
This is one conversations on whatshapp with one of these girls, it's the only one in English; this girl is literally chasing me and checking whenever I go online on the Skout app.
Is there any psychological explanation in this? Are they driven by guilt trip now? Or them being associating me with the fake six-packs guy photo even after seeing my real picture?
What is going on here? And why it's the same pattern of reaction in all?\
This is so f*****g disturbingly amazing!!
Interesting. I think the bottom line is that you shouldn't really expect anyone to be honest with you, especially if you haven't earned their trust, which might even involve being physically attractive to them, among other things.
I for one would worry about attracting the attention of the guy in the picture, which might make him decide it's finally time to break my legs or my skull.
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and what's funny, that even though they're chasing me - I am not interested in any of them for a serious date.
I just can't, I know they didn't find me attractive enough in the first friction of second they same my photo hence why they declined me in the first place - and I know that they crave for something entirely different.
Imagine if I marry one of them and my hypothetical child asks me "how did you meet my mom?" - what would I tell them?
"Oh, your mom ignored me first on a dating app and declined my chat request - but then she replied to my fake account with the six-packed guy photo, but after showing her my real picture there of the same one I used in the profile she declined - she decided to unblock my real profile and to continue chatting with me and even gave me her phone nb"
What a meaningful lesson of love, depth and honesty.
Something that started that wrong can't work out anyway.
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It's a simple process, but it's difficult to do, because losing weight and getting fit is really uncomfortable and sometimes really painful. You have to have really strong will power to do it. But it is absolutely worth it.
I do believe you. But physical fitness is not just being muscular.
You should just say 'being muscular' is important rather than saying physical fitness is important, because there are plenty of physically fit people who are not muscular.
One of the greatest tennis players in the world has a body like this:

One of the greatest distance runners in history looks like this:

The world's fastest swimmer looks like this:

So, would these FIT men be attractive to women, especially without the money and fame and if they both had Asperger's? I'd think not.
These men are fitness legends, and yet, they are below the male beauty standards nowadays.
The new male beauty standards today is IMPOSSIBLE for someone who doesn't make a living out of his looks:
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2015/01/n ... le-beauty/
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What also goes unmentioned is the secret weapon: testosterone and human-growth-hormone injections. What, you thought Hugh Jackman – in his 40s – got that vascular just by choking down chicken breasts?




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Honestly the guy on the left probably wouldn't look too bad if he used some acne treatment and maybe grew out a full beard instead of the straggly neck/chin hair... and perhaps developed an exercise routine to become a bit more fit. There would be hope for that guy having a more attractive appearance essentially.
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Honestly the guy on the left probably wouldn't look too bad if he used some acne treatment and maybe grew out a full beard instead of the straggly neck/chin hair... and perhaps developed an exercise routine to become a bit more fit. There would be hope for that guy having a more attractive appearance essentially.
Point flew right over your head.
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About suffering they were never wrong,
The Old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position; how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or
just walking dully along...
When you look like the guy on the left, you're often stuck in a situation in which those seemingly trivial measures aren't much of an option, especially not before you get too old to enjoy any results by dating.

I think a considerable part of the difference is that the guy on the left has an expression of confidence, which has probably become permanent because his facial muscles are so very used to it, and it strongly suggests he has good reasons to be confident.
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