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dustyrose
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02 Jun 2013, 12:02 am

Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)



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02 Jun 2013, 12:30 am

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Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)


Of course. Many men really aren't into wild women.

I don't know about most men, but I've always preferred the girl next door type over the social butterfly.



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02 Jun 2013, 1:42 am

I'd find it more than endearing...I'd look at it as a blessing.
Definitely prefer the girl next door :)



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02 Jun 2013, 2:56 am

Haha good to hear, but if by "girl next door" you mean "average girl", I think the average girl types would generally be socially competent and have a good amount of social experience by their late teens, never been friendless, probably lose their virginity around 17-20 and have had a few boyfriends, I'm talking abnormally inexperienced girls. Like ones who have only had a couple/few friends at any time throughout their life, hardly ever had an active social life, only ever dated one person who she met on a dating site, etc. Pretty much sums me up xD

Guess I was fairly general in the first post xD.



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02 Jun 2013, 8:03 am

Maybe. In a way. It can be irritating if you are stuck in your ways and not willing to expand your mind and have new experiences. It can also be very sweet. It just depends on the person. Also, it can be annoying if you are completely passive and expect the man to surprise you, impress you, singlehandedly think of new things to expose you to, and attend to all your needs -- without any reciprocity. My experience with passive women has been a bad one. I end up feeling lonely, exhausted, and irritated even if I see them every day.

Being passive is annoying and stressful, but some guys would like it because it gives them a sense of power. But watch out for abusers.



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02 Jun 2013, 8:14 am

Not endearing but enticing. How is a 20-30 year old woman who is a virgin not attractive? Something's not right with this concept....


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02 Jun 2013, 8:16 am

Tyri0n wrote:
but some guys would like it because it gives them a sense of power. But watch out for abusers.


Tri0n's right, watch out for them abusers, no one needs that.


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02 Jun 2013, 11:06 am

I would prefer a woman like that, at least we would have some things in common. Outgoing women tend to scare me, and introverted women can be crazy and in the wrong relationship even abusive, but I'm not one to judge someone on something like that since I am totally off my rocker insane! WOO-HOO! Okay back to sanity. For me every shy girl I've met that I've had strong feelings of attraction towards weren't crazy, albeit one exception but I already knew what I was getting into; although not every shy girl I've met hasn't been a virgin, in fact some had surprisingly active sex lives. So yes I would prefer a woman whose a virgin (I find this quality attractive because of a 0% chance of getting an STD), never been in love (like I said something in common), and having an overall misunderstanding of social the world and what is considered to be normal (We have something to talk about that isn't the crap filled media of the general public).



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02 Jun 2013, 1:58 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
Maybe. In a way. It can be irritating if you are stuck in your ways and not willing to expand your mind and have new experiences. It can also be very sweet. It just depends on the person. Also, it can be annoying if you are completely passive and expect the man to surprise you, impress you, singlehandedly think of new things to expose you to, and attend to all your needs -- without any reciprocity. My experience with passive women has been a bad one. I end up feeling lonely, exhausted, and irritated even if I see them every day.

Being passive is annoying and stressful, but some guys would like it because it gives them a sense of power. But watch out for abusers.



I get where you're coming from about being too passive and/or closed off to new experience, I'm not sure this would be the case if they have made an effort to not be as socially awkward and also have a decent level of independence. If anything I'm more emotionally independent than a lot of people and would not be dependent on anyone to "attend to my needs". And not without reciprocity as no good relationship works that way. But I do have a view that men should make the first move. Not all the moves by any means, but the significant ones such as asking for an exclusive committed relationship with the girl, etc.

So it's not that I'm overly passive or expect the other person to carry all the weight but moreso a generalized lack of social experience because of awkwardness and then improvement, but after improvement still having a lot of reserved feelings around trying to make friends and not really knowing how thus having a harder time with it. Also the fact that I don't really get lonely so I'm nowhere near as socially motivated as the average person is naturally.



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02 Jun 2013, 2:06 pm

dustyrose wrote:
Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)


A woman like that would be more tolerant of my flaws (I'm not a virgin or anything, but there's plenty of stuff people would consider a red flag). In my honest opinion, women born after 1980 are too much into partying and getting wasted every weekend, so a woman who didn't go to house parties and didn't go clubbing would be a plus.

As far as virginity goes, virginity itself is not a red flag. If she's the kind of girl who'd cry for hours after ten seconds of actual sex it would be, though...



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02 Jun 2013, 2:12 pm

Kurgan wrote:
dustyrose wrote:
Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)


A woman like that would be more tolerant of my flaws (I'm not a virgin or anything, but there's plenty of stuff people would consider a red flag). In my honest opinion, women born after 1980 are too much into partying and getting wasted every weekend, so a woman who didn't go to house parties and didn't go clubbing would be a plus.

As far as virginity goes, virginity itself is not a red flag. If she's the kind of girl who'd cry for hours after ten seconds of actual sex it would be, though...


Great Kurgan, what the hell am I supposed to do now when a lady wants me on her, now I'm afraid she's gonna cry!


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02 Jun 2013, 2:25 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
dustyrose wrote:
Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)


A woman like that would be more tolerant of my flaws (I'm not a virgin or anything, but there's plenty of stuff people would consider a red flag). In my honest opinion, women born after 1980 are too much into partying and getting wasted every weekend, so a woman who didn't go to house parties and didn't go clubbing would be a plus.

As far as virginity goes, virginity itself is not a red flag. If she's the kind of girl who'd cry for hours after ten seconds of actual sex it would be, though...


Great Kurgan, what the hell am I supposed to do now when a lady wants me on her, now I'm afraid she's gonna cry!


You gotta play everything to your advantage. If she cries then comfort her, tell her it's not her fault and that it doesn't matter it's just sex. That's another thing since we're guys everything wrong about sex is our fault.



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02 Jun 2013, 7:55 pm

Character > experience. To me, a lack of sexual experience doesn't matter. Neither would a lot more experience than I have (until I hear that I'm number forty-five perhaps) as long as we connect really well intellectually.



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02 Jun 2013, 8:00 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Not endearing but enticing. How is a 20-30 year old woman who is a virgin not attractive? Something's not right with this concept....


Maybe said hypothetical person is a virgin because she's not attractive...


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02 Jun 2013, 9:15 pm

dustyrose wrote:
Are there any men who find it endearing, or at least not negative, if a woman in her 20s has minimal experience both romantically and socially? I.e. both a virgin, never been in love, as well as lack of overall social experience for her age? (e.g. never had a large social circle, done drugs, gone to house parties, gone clubbing, etc.)


There's no doubt that men, in general, find such a woman to be endearing and attractive. Well, provided that he sees her nice to look at of course.



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03 Jun 2013, 8:53 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Not endearing but enticing. How is a 20-30 year old woman who is a virgin not attractive? Something's not right with this concept....


Maybe said hypothetical person is a virgin because she's not attractive...


What I behold as beautiful is cannot be the same as what you believe is, so I doubt that is a good enough reason.


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