Something girls do(or say) that doesn't make sense

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13 Feb 2017, 6:46 pm

Being male(and autistic), I can relate to being "friend zoned". It's happened a few times to me, and when I persisted, I was treated like a stalker(it hurts and I never spoke to them again). Ladies, I understand that you don't want to tread on feelings(because some of you know how it feels), but why are you so delicate to us? Telling us what's wrong isn't being mean, it's being honest. The only thing you hurt is our pride, we'll recover. It's not a gun shot, it's a paper cut. A better analogy: let's say you bought Beats by Dr. Dre. You loved them and would definitely recommend them to someone else, but one day you went with Bose or JBL. Say they asked why you went with JBL or Bose, would you tell them the same thing you tell guys that you reject? Probably not. You would tell them what you liked and didn't like about Beats...and they would take your info and improve the product. Don't try to convince them you're not a mean person. The game is fixed. You're mean, no matter what you say or do. Besides, you telling them what they're doing wrong will just help them grow, so...yeah. Tomorrow's Valentine's Day, so this post would be appropriate, for the occasion.

*If this comes off as nasty, I apologize. I'm still kinda new at this.



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13 Feb 2017, 6:57 pm

Why do you feel it is the responsibility of others to tell you how to improve yourself?



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13 Feb 2017, 7:22 pm

Because sometimes the answer is "I prefered that but there was no logoal reason in behind it and I don't know myself". Sometimes you could be the perfect guy but the feeling just isnt there and then you feel bad because it truly isn't something about them in particular you just don't have feelings for them.

There isn't always a logical explanation and it's difficult trying to explain that you don't like someone that way just because. Also some guys don't accept that as a reason.



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13 Feb 2017, 10:59 pm

Personally, it's really hard for me to say to a guy why i don't like him. First reason is, don't want him to feel bad. it's hard for me to say "okay, you are a good guy, but i just don't feel anything." would you accept that?



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14 Feb 2017, 9:24 pm

Dr_Manhattan wrote:
Being male(and autistic), I can relate to being "friend zoned". It's happened a few times to me, and when I persisted, I was treated like a stalker(it hurts and I never spoke to them again). Ladies, I understand that you don't want to tread on feelings(because some of you know how it feels), but why are you so delicate to us? Telling us what's wrong isn't being mean, it's being honest. The only thing you hurt is our pride, we'll recover. It's not a gun shot, it's a paper cut. A better analogy: let's say you bought Beats by Dr. Dre. You loved them and would definitely recommend them to someone else, but one day you went with Bose or JBL. Say they asked why you went with JBL or Bose, would you tell them the same thing you tell guys that you reject? Probably not. You would tell them what you liked and didn't like about Beats...and they would take your info and improve the product. Don't try to convince them you're not a mean person. The game is fixed. You're mean, no matter what you say or do. Besides, you telling them what they're doing wrong will just help them grow, so...yeah. Tomorrow's Valentine's Day, so this post would be appropriate, for the occasion.

*If this comes off as nasty, I apologize. I'm still kinda new at this.


Girls and women try to let boys and men they are not interested in down lightly for a few reasons.

1. Society's expectations of how girls should act. Girls are constantly told to be nice and warm, and condemned a lot more than males when they aren't.

2. Misplaced empathy. They reject guys in the manner they would like guys to reject them.

3. Safety. Some guys take rejection very poorly, and unfortunately can turn violent when a girl or woman rejects them, or they perceive has rejected them.



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14 Feb 2017, 9:45 pm

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Girls and women try to let boys and men they are not interested in down lightly for a few reasons.

1. Society's expectations of how girls should act. Girls are constantly told to be nice and warm, and condemned a lot more than males when they aren't.

2. Misplaced empathy. They reject guys in the manner they would like guys to reject them.

3. Safety. Some guys take rejection very poorly, and unfortunately can turn violent when a girl or woman rejects them, or they perceive has rejected them.


All of that.



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15 Feb 2017, 11:25 am

Dr_Manhattan wrote:
Being male(and autistic), I can relate to being "friend zoned". It's happened a few times to me, and when I persisted, I was treated like a stalker(it hurts and I never spoke to them again). Ladies, I understand that you don't want to tread on feelings(because some of you know how it feels), but why are you so delicate to us? Telling us what's wrong isn't being mean, it's being honest. The only thing you hurt is our pride, we'll recover. It's not a gun shot, it's a paper cut. A better analogy: let's say you bought Beats by Dr. Dre. You loved them and would definitely recommend them to someone else, but one day you went with Bose or JBL. Say they asked why you went with JBL or Bose, would you tell them the same thing you tell guys that you reject? Probably not. You would tell them what you liked and didn't like about Beats...and they would take your info and improve the product. Don't try to convince them you're not a mean person. The game is fixed. You're mean, no matter what you say or do. Besides, you telling them what they're doing wrong will just help them grow, so...yeah. Tomorrow's Valentine's Day, so this post would be appropriate, for the occasion.

*If this comes off as nasty, I apologize. I'm still kinda new at this.

You're assuming that there's something wrong in the first place. The few times I've rejected men is not because there's anything fundamentally wrong with them, but something about them is incompatible with me. Or I'm not attracted to them. Learning that they're just not attracted to you will not help you any. And unless you plan on going for girls with the same preferences over and over, say, girls who prefer that guys are neat, then being neater isn't going to help you. As for me, I rejected my best friend because I can't see myself sharing a life with him. Because he only eats meat and carbs, and it's a well known fact that families tend to be healthy, or unhealthy, together. I don't see myself being able to change him to suit me, nor do I see myself willing to change myself to suit him.

He suggested that we can date casually. And I said well, no, because you're my best friend. I'm not about to jeopardize our friendship for a casual relationship. I will jeopardize it for a lifelong relationship because I already love you and don't want to lose you, but it's not in the cards. I think if you're rejected it's just best to assume that you're not compatible and move on.



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15 Feb 2017, 8:03 pm

All three of the reasons women give for letting men down lightly are valid.
It just sucks for aspies because we can handle the truth, and we'd like to work on things that turned women off, so we need to know what they are.



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15 Feb 2017, 8:07 pm

I don't think you'll get much superior feedback from men who dislike you. You just won't care as much; it's a people thing, more than a woman thing. If you find someone who gives you honest, caring feedback, make them your best friend.


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15 Feb 2017, 8:26 pm

Of course we'll get much better feedback, if the women will be honest. We're trying to figure women out. I don't give a s**t about a man's opinion of me - I'm not trying to get in a relationship with a man.



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15 Feb 2017, 8:41 pm

I doubt that. I now have a low opinion of you. See if you can ignore it.


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15 Feb 2017, 8:46 pm

Every woman has her own set of rules. Learning one set of rules won't help you figure out the next.



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25 Feb 2017, 10:38 am

Crazy how women are unique individuals, just like regular people.


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25 Feb 2017, 11:09 am

Chronos wrote:
Dr_Manhattan wrote:
Being male(and autistic), I can relate to being "friend zoned". It's happened a few times to me, and when I persisted, I was treated like a stalker(it hurts and I never spoke to them again). Ladies, I understand that you don't want to tread on feelings(because some of you know how it feels), but why are you so delicate to us? Telling us what's wrong isn't being mean, it's being honest. The only thing you hurt is our pride, we'll recover. It's not a gun shot, it's a paper cut. A better analogy: let's say you bought Beats by Dr. Dre. You loved them and would definitely recommend them to someone else, but one day you went with Bose or JBL. Say they asked why you went with JBL or Bose, would you tell them the same thing you tell guys that you reject? Probably not. You would tell them what you liked and didn't like about Beats...and they would take your info and improve the product. Don't try to convince them you're not a mean person. The game is fixed. You're mean, no matter what you say or do. Besides, you telling them what they're doing wrong will just help them grow, so...yeah. Tomorrow's Valentine's Day, so this post would be appropriate, for the occasion.

*If this comes off as nasty, I apologize. I'm still kinda new at this.


Girls and women try to let boys and men they are not interested in down lightly for a few reasons.

1. Society's expectations of how girls should act. Girls are constantly told to be nice and warm, and condemned a lot more than males when they aren't.

2. Misplaced empathy. They reject guys in the manner they would like guys to reject them.

3. Safety. Some guys take rejection very poorly, and unfortunately can turn violent when a girl or woman rejects them, or they perceive has rejected them.

I agree. Also, I tend to be really honest when I reject someone or break up with someone, and the main problem is when the rebuttal is "I don't see it like that". My last rejection / breakup was due to me deeply feeling that we were not compatible, and an inability to relax and be comfortable around him that had, as far as I could tell, nothing really to do with anything in particular he was doing. I told him all that, only to receive a "I don't think we're not compatible". Uhm, Ok, so should I change my mind only because "you" think that way? I see that very often men simply don't accept whichever reason women give them, and assume they're not telling the truth by default.


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25 Feb 2017, 12:07 pm

Rejection is an NT thing, and if you play things the NT way with dating and all the rest, then you need to learn to accept rejection. If you play it the ND way, rejection is never even an issue.



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25 Feb 2017, 12:30 pm

rdos wrote:
Rejection is an NT thing, and if you play things the NT way with dating and all the rest, then you need to learn to accept rejection. If you play it the ND way, rejection is never even an issue.


Could you make a thread one day about what you mean by ND dating because it really confuses me what you mean. I don't see how you can avoid rejection or verbal communication when dating. Rejection is a fact of life.