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23 May 2018, 2:49 am

How well do ENFPs and INTJs get along together IRL? Theoretically I've heard they're a good match. Any stories?


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23 May 2018, 3:34 am

What and what?



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23 May 2018, 4:21 am

hale_bopp wrote:
What and what?


MBTI types in short, my Aspie fixation for the last few months since I plan to have characters for each of the 16 types in a novel I'm going to get around to writing someday (only 3 chapters so far and I need to study my textbooks a bit more before doing much more, since my writing still sucks so far.)

For a video description of the two types,

Here's one for ENFP:


And a more detailed one for the ENFP if anyone should wish to hear more:



And a short video regarding INTJs:


And a more detailed one for INTJs:



INTJ is my own personality type, though I have lived many years under high stress and have probably developed the inferior and the shadow functions a fair bit more than most INTJs surrounded by comfort and without so much chaos throughout their lives.

If anyone would want to get an idea of what their type might be, these two sites are pretty good for online ones:

This goes by the shorthand letters, but it still is pretty good and it provides type descriptions that help you see if you relate to your result: https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

This goes by cognitive functions and should be more accurate since it does: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm


For details of Jungian stack functions though:

An ENFP has these functions in order:

1. Extraverted Intuition
2. Introverted Feeling
3. Extraverted Thinking
4. Introverted Sensing

And for the INTJ, theirs is:

1. Introverted Intuition
2. Extraverted Thinking
3. Introverted Feeling
4. Extraverted Sensing

The perception types for both are in the same places, just opposite direction, inward for INTJ's intuition and outward for ENFP and vice versa for sensing. The judging functions are the exact same though, but in reverse order, so they have a balancing act with their order of judging and a balancing act for the direction of their perception functions but they're not so different like if sensing were in the 1st spot versus both having the same basic perception types. They see eye to eye mostly. Ne gathers patterns and Ni sorts patterns, so that works out that way too.

I'm still just learning all this myself, but there is some of what I have found out. It would be nice to know some real life data too though, even though the theory is highly fascinating. I want to know if they really do work out as well as I've heard, since eventually I hope to someday marry an ENFP if it were possible and I'd like to have an idea of how likely that would be to last -- perhaps without curmudgeons going through and whining about how MBTI isn't perfect and how they didn't look up the scientific defense of it and instead only post naysayer crap rather than bothering to listen or say anything meaningful. Anyway, hopefully that gives a clearer picture of what I'm referring to.


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23 May 2018, 4:56 am

Myers briggs is not very good in my opinion, and it is based on pure theory.

The big 5 is much better, and has extensive resarch behind it.



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23 May 2018, 1:31 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
Myers briggs is not very good in my opinion, and it is based on pure theory.

The big 5 is much better, and has extensive resarch behind it.


Well, thanks, though Big 5 doesn't have as much predictive value as MBTI. It may be more empirical rather than axiomatic, but MBTI seems to work fairly well for an axiomatic system.


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23 May 2018, 10:35 pm

The big 5 has major predicting power, everything from political beliefs, to creativity and lifetime success.
The big 5 is also been shown to be much more stable across a lifetime than MBTI.



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25 May 2018, 3:55 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
The big 5 has major predicting power, everything from political beliefs, to creativity and lifetime success.
The big 5 is also been shown to be much more stable across a lifetime than MBTI.


Alright, well, MBTI is what this thread is about, particularly for INTJs and ENFPs, does anything about Big Five relate to those personality types or do you just want to keep advertising Big Five?


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