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29 Jun 2018, 10:24 pm

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Okay, I’ll take your word for it. Though I don’t know how you expect to find anyone if you refuse to do anything. Where is the logic in that?

Dating sites are my only hope.
Women don’t want to be asked out or approached anywhere but at bars and clubs which I don’t go since I don’t drink liquor. And such women wouldn’t work with me.
And since most women see me as worthless cause if my job meeting any at work is impossible.

I’d do things with her if I had a gf.



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29 Jun 2018, 10:26 pm

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I like going to the movies alone :)
I see other people (persons) doing the same thing, too, while I'm there.

Never seen anyone alone at movies, they always with a gf, family or friends. Same I’ve never seen anyone at restaurants alone. I’d too anxious and embarrassed to go to either such things alone. I can only imagine them being like why’s this ugly worthless guy ruining our view



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29 Jun 2018, 10:32 pm

If you don’t want to do any socialisation apart from dating sites, you’re pretty much screwed.

No, women don’t like being “hit on”, but they do like being approached as people and chatted to as people, not a vagina.

People meet throgh friends, dance classes, work, clubs, church, volunteer work, friends of friends. You really have to put in some effort.

You really need to fix your issues before someone will date you. If you think people think that about people eating alone, there is something pretty seriously wrong with you. Most people think “what a goer” when they see someone making an effort, even if alone.

People who make fun of people on their own aren’t worth knowing.

No such thing as a free lunch. If you can’t make yourself do anything then you probably need to see a doctor about your serotonin levels.



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29 Jun 2018, 11:51 pm

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I like going to the movies alone :)
I see other people (persons) doing the same thing, too, while I'm there.

Never seen anyone alone at movies, they always with a gf, family or friends. Same I’ve never seen anyone at restaurants alone.

How do you know this if you don't go out? If you've been out to the cinema and restaurants enough times to comment on what you see, then it sounds like your social life is not so empty.



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30 Jun 2018, 12:11 am

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Get real! Our fates lie not in the stars, but within ourselves.
And stars lie within us...
Evidence, please?

I, for one, do not have a multi-trillion kilogram ball of 5000°C hydrogen plasma inside my body.

GET REAL.


:lol: the visual of that did give me a laugh though.


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30 Jun 2018, 12:13 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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Get real! Our fates lie not in the stars, but within ourselves.
And stars lie within us...
Evidence, please?

I, for one, do not have a multi-trillion kilogram ball of 5000°C hydrogen plasma inside my body.

GET REAL.


Everything we are made up of came from cosmic dust.

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Well that still does not mean we have stars inside of us per say. Granted we're no more special than stars...they expire and die to, Including the sun of our planet.


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30 Jun 2018, 12:35 am

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A lot of autistic men and women would be happier if they learned to enjoy being single. I'm not saying give up on finding a partner, but don't invest so much emotional energy in it. There's a whole lot more to life, and you don't want to miss out on other pursuits.

Be happy being alone, not loved by anyone, not respected by anyone, being an outcast from the world? How? Maybe if I was a billionaire I could learn to be happy single by spending loads of money and traveling the world, but as a poor person who can only sit in their room all the time when nit working there’s absolutely nithto enjoy being single.
Atleast in a relationship I could do things with her and spend time with her and not be alone in this hell we call a world.
There’s nothing more to life for me. I wake up, go to work go home, any time not working I, in my tiny room.


I am poor and have pretty much always been and I do more than sit in my room. Maybe you need to find some people aside from a relationship partner...I mean companionship does not only have to come from a romantic relationship. Before I got a solid relationship with my boyfriend I was spending a lot of time with my brother and his friends...I didn't know them all well or get to be friends with them all, but still gave me some feeling of being included in social interaction. Like sure I wanted a boyfriend but at least hanging out with people was something. I mean granted I also smoke cannabis....so I've certainly smoked a bowl with people to sort of break the ice. But well not very useful if you don't smoke cannabis.


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30 Jun 2018, 12:54 am

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I like going to the movies alone :)
I see other people (persons) doing the same thing, too, while I'm there.

Never seen anyone alone at movies, they always with a gf, family or friends. Same I’ve never seen anyone at restaurants alone.

How do you know this if you don't go out? If you've been out to the cinema and restaurants enough times to comment on what you see, then it sounds like your social life is not so empty.

I’ve gone a few times a year with family. I’ve heard how people comment on few single people that do go.



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30 Jun 2018, 1:01 am

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If you don’t want to do any socialisation apart from dating sites, you’re pretty much screwed.

No, women don’t like being “hit on”, but they do like being approached as people and chatted to as people, not a vagina.

People meet throgh friends, dance classes, work, clubs, church, volunteer work, friends of friends. You really have to put in some effort.

You really need to fix your issues before someone will date you. If you think people think that about people eating alone, there is something pretty seriously wrong with you. Most people think “what a goer” when they see someone making an effort, even if alone.

People who make fun of people on their own aren’t worth knowing.

No such thing as a free lunch. If you can’t make yourself do anything then you probably need to see a doctor about your serotonin levels.


So asking them if they’d like to go on a date isn’t treating them like a human? Wow. Guess saying hi isn’t either, I’ve nevwr hit on anyone and I don’t even know how to do so.
I’m nit in high school such things don’t exist. And women who go to dance classes don’t go to meet guys.you really don’t get my area, there’s movies, clubs, bars and strip clubs, that’s it.
Again I have no friends, zero, none, uno,
Around here people say what a sad loser, what’s so wrong with them thst they cant get anyone to eat out with them or see a movie with them.



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30 Jun 2018, 1:08 am

I have never seen anyone alone in the movies; either couples, or
families with little kids or large groups of annoying teens who never shut up during the movie.

Same for restaurants at night and during weekends.

The only instance where I see people alone in a resto is during weekdays at lunch break times - which is normal.



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30 Jun 2018, 1:12 am

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I have never seen anyone alone in the movies; either couples, or
families with little kids or large groups of annoying teens who never shut up during the movie.

You've never seen strangers chatting to each other in public, either.
My conclusion: People who are unsatisfied with the way things are where they live need to move to Australia. 8)



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30 Jun 2018, 1:25 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
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I have never seen anyone alone in the movies;either couples, or
families with little kids or large groups of annoying teens who never shut up during the movie.

You've never seen strangers chatting to each other in public, either.
My conclusion: People who are unsatisfied with the way things are where they live need to move to Australia. 8)
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I did see strangers chatting to each other in public, like in buses and taxis.

But the scenarios you and goldish provided are very odd.

For example goldfish claims that it’s SO common for guys to chat and attempt to sit with a stranger girl eating alone in cafe or restaurant.
Like imagine I see a girl alone in cafe, and I go to her and tell her: “hey can I join?”

....

This is so f*****g weird. I have never seen it happens, therefore I will never do it. It’s simply not socially acceptable in my area and in all the countries I visited so far.



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30 Jun 2018, 1:43 am

There was a rather interesting radio show broadcast by Jean Shepherd, if I remember correctly, on August 18, 1964. If you get a chance, find a copy and listen to it. It is probably available on http://archive.org.


Here it is! https://archive.org/details/JeanShepherd1964pt2/1964_08_18_Monster_Mothers.mp3

In the latter part of the show, he is talking about modern literature and its view of women. He says that there is a major difference between the authors of New York City and the authors of the mid west in their view toward women and finding the right women who would love the man -- noone else would do. To literary mind from New York City, it was like there was one ideal woman and the man was a failure if he didn't win her over. In the mid west, it was seen that if one woman rejected a man, there were other women around who would love him.

However, in literature, it was the New York City version (and to a large degree the same view in the South) that was portrayed because the publishing houses and noted authors and literary reviewers were invariably from New York City and could not understand the view of those in the mid west and that authors from the mid west had trouble getting their stories and books published because to the minds of the publishing houses, authors, and literary reviewers, the idea that there were more women around that could love a man was incomprehensible because it didn't match their view of love and marriage at all.

That is largely in the second half of the show, but the first half is interesting as well in that he talked a lot about what we now call helicopter mothers who take a great deal of control over the lives of their sons and daughters. According to him, these helicopter mothers were very prevalent in New York City but were practically unknown in the mid west where mothers wanted their kids to solve their own problems instead of them solving the problems of the kids for them.

That may not the best Jean Shepherd radio show, but it is easily one of his best shows.

If you don't now who Jean Shepherd was, he was the buy who wrote the short story that the movie, A Christmas Story, was made from about the kid who wanted a Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas.



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30 Jun 2018, 3:22 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
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I have never seen anyone alone in the movies;either couples, or
families with little kids or large groups of annoying teens who never shut up during the movie.

You've never seen strangers chatting to each other in public, either.
My conclusion: People who are unsatisfied with the way things are where they live need to move to Australia. 8)
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I did see strangers chatting to each other in public, like in buses and taxis.

But the scenarios you and goldish provided are very odd.

For example goldfish claims that it’s SO common for guys to chat and attempt to sit with a stranger girl eating alone in cafe or restaurant.
Like imagine I see a girl alone in cafe, and I go to her and tell her: “hey can I join?”

....

This is so f*****g weird. I have never seen it happens, therefore I will never do it. It’s simply not socially acceptable in my area and in all the countries I visited so far.


That is weird. People don’t do that. In New Zealand people scowl at people who sit next to them on the bus if there are other spare seats. Generally, get some friends. Mingle in group settings. This is when it works.

The point was, at least getting off your backside and doing something alone is better than sitting miserable and moaning.

A guy at work told me on Friday that he’s met a huge number of people at dance class.



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30 Jun 2018, 3:32 am

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That is weird. People don’t do that. In New Zealand people scowl at people who sit next to them on the bus if there are other spare seats.

A guy used to flirt with me on a bus in Auckland. Non-verbally though. But if I'd sat next to him I doubt he would have complained :wink:



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30 Jun 2018, 5:58 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
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That is weird. People don’t do that. In New Zealand people scowl at people who sit next to them on the bus if there are other spare seats.

A guy used to flirt with me on a bus in Auckland. Non-verbally though. But if I'd sat next to him I doubt he would have complained :wink:


That isn’t very common. In big town New Zealand, people are extremely passive aggressive and unfriendly.

Many Americans I talk to don’t understand how people can be such a***holes.

Small towns are nicer, there is more of a community feel.

Although I am not particularly a people person, I will always say hello to people and ask them about their day. It’s not common. I’m the only person at work who says good morning to everyone as they walk in and past my desk.

People may not like me on here, but I try to be a decent person. I was punished as a child in any instance of lack of manners. I guess it did me well.

I should probably stay off the internet. I don’t always like the person I am on here.