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06 Jul 2019, 1:00 pm

...and almost has the same interests as mine, like at least 90% of interests...

BUT...

There's a problem.

There's always this but that ruins it all.

She's radically Vegan, meaning she does not eat meat, poultry, even dairy products and eggs for ethical reasons, except fish and seafood (because she believes fish don't feel pain like mammals and birds which is something that it may not be entirely true, and not mass tortured in farms ).
While I am not, I am a meat eater, and I don't quite believe that humans were herbivores (our physiology doesn't support that, science shows we have evolved as an omnivore species and even slightly leaning more to the carnivore).

This won't work, no?



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06 Jul 2019, 1:12 pm

Make yourself into a "flexitarian"? Since she eats seafood it makes her one, and she can't argue with that. If she does, she's nuts.


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06 Jul 2019, 1:13 pm

How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !


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06 Jul 2019, 1:36 pm

smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !


Amen. Veganism is a life style, not a diet. It means avoiding products not made of or tested on animals, not supporting businesses that test on animals (e.g. not buying from P&G) and...not eating seafood because you think fish don't feel pain. She is a pescetarian, and if she thinks she's a vegan she's a dumb pescetarian.

Having said this, being a vegan is no reason to dismiss someone -unless you are looking for a excuse to do so (omg this could work I must find a reason why it can't). I'm a vegan ( a real one) and don't hold it over anyone I date or put a gun to his head and make him eat tofu.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:39 pm

smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !



Well, she does have an ethical argument for that, and it's something we can't deny: Most of the fish we eat come from fishing boats, from their native environment, they're not raised in farm factories like cows and chicken.

That means she wouldn't mind to eat chicken if they're raised humanly.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:42 pm

red_doghubb wrote:
smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !


Amen. Veganism is a life style, not a diet. It means avoiding products not made of or tested on animals, not supporting businesses that test on animals (e.g. not buying from P&G) and...not eating seafood because you think fish don't feel pain. She is a pescetarian, and if she thinks she's a vegan she's a dumb pescetarian.

Having said this, being a vegan is no reason to dismiss someone -unless you are looking for a excuse to do so (omg this could work I must find a reason why it can't). I'm a vegan ( a real one) and don't hold it over anyone I date or put a gun to his head and make him eat tofu.


To be fair, there's no word in our native languages for 'pescetarian'.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:43 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !



Well, she does have an ethical argument for that, and it's something we can't deny: Most of the fish we eat come from fishing boats, from their native environment, they're not raised in farm factories like cows and chicken.

That means she wouldn't mind to eat chicken if they're raised humanly.


But boiling lobsters alive so that they're screaming, and steaming mussels and other bivalves alive is completely humane, got it.


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06 Jul 2019, 1:45 pm

smudge wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !



Well, she does have an ethical argument for that, and it's something we can't deny: Most of the fish we eat come from fishing boats, from their native environment, they're not raised in farm factories like cows and chicken.

That means she wouldn't mind to eat chicken if they're raised humanly.


But boiling lobsters alive so that they're screaming, and steaming mussels and other bivalves alive is completely humane, got it.


Haha that's a good one, I don't know if she eat lobsters and mussels yet, I don't think so.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:45 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !



Well, she does have an ethical argument for that, and it's something we can't deny: Most of the fish we eat come from fishing boats, from their native environment, they're not raised in farm factories like cows and chicken.

That means she wouldn't mind to eat chicken if they're raised humanly.


yeah than she's def not vegan. It's not solely (pun unintended) about how the being is "raised", tho that's a huge part. There is a belief that we are not entitled to eat other beings just because they exist and we are all powerful.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:46 pm

Vegans generally manage their weight well. And vegans are not residents of Las Vegas...


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06 Jul 2019, 1:47 pm

red_doghubb wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !



Well, she does have an ethical argument for that, and it's something we can't deny: Most of the fish we eat come from fishing boats, from their native environment, they're not raised in farm factories like cows and chicken.

That means she wouldn't mind to eat chicken if they're raised humanly.


yeah than she's def not vegan. It's not solely (pun unintended) about how the being is "raised", tho that's a huge part. There is a belief that we are not entitled to eat other beings just because they exist and we are all powerful.


I find not eating even eggs and all dairy products is a bit radical choice, so she's like 3/4 vegan?



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06 Jul 2019, 1:48 pm

red_doghubb wrote:
smudge wrote:
How the Hell can someone be radically vegan, if they eat seafood??! !


Amen. Veganism is a life style, not a diet. It means avoiding products not made of or tested on animals, not supporting businesses that test on animals (e.g. not buying from P&G) and...not eating seafood because you think fish don't feel pain. She is a pescetarian, and if she thinks she's a vegan she's a dumb pescetarian.

Having said this, being a vegan is no reason to dismiss someone -unless you are looking for a excuse to do so (omg this could work I must find a reason why it can't). I'm a vegan ( a real one) and don't hold it over anyone I date or put a gun to his head and make him eat tofu.


I agree with you. The suggestion that she's a radical vegan who eats seafood sounds like she's one of those SJW-type hypocrites I was talking about in that other thread.

I was a vegan but couldn't stick to it. I salute you for sticking to it, it's very hard. I also salute you for not ramming it down peoples' throats.


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06 Jul 2019, 1:48 pm

Eating seafood makes her not vegan but it's not the point of the topic, I guess.

Get to know her better. Check how well you can communicate. Can you have good time together, also in non-sexual meaning? That would be a great indicator of possibly good match.

Does she insist on you changing your diet? Maybe you can tolerate and respect each other with the difference.


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06 Jul 2019, 1:49 pm

She's not a vegan. If she would be psychologically sickened by you storing, cooking and eating meat, as some vegetarians are, then you'd have an incompatibility that would be hard to overcome. If not, then I don't see a problem with you eating different things. My wife and I frequently eat different foods at meals.



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06 Jul 2019, 1:51 pm

magz wrote:
Eating seafood makes her not vegan but it's not the point of the topic, I guess.

Get to know her better. Check how well you can communicate. Can you have good time together, also in non-sexual meaning? That would be a great indicator of possibly good match.

Does she insist on you changing your diet? Maybe you can tolerate and respect each other with the difference.



She doesn't object to my diet, but it's not simple as it sounds, like for example if we are sitting together how am I gonna order a steak to the table while I know she has strong sensitivity about this matter?



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06 Jul 2019, 1:52 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
magz wrote:
Eating seafood makes her not vegan but it's not the point of the topic, I guess.

Get to know her better. Check how well you can communicate. Can you have good time together, also in non-sexual meaning? That would be a great indicator of possibly good match.

Does she insist on you changing your diet? Maybe you can tolerate and respect each other with the difference.



She doesn't object to my diet, but it's not simple as it sounds, like for example if we are sitting together how am I gonna order a steak to the table while I know she has strong sensitivity about this matter?

Can you discuss it?


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