Does anyone know about twin flames?

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katy_rome
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21 Mar 2018, 1:41 pm

Has anyone had experience of this kind of thing, or heard of anyone who has?
I'd be really interested in hearing anything at all about it... as it's something that's puzzling me right now.



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21 Mar 2018, 4:05 pm

It's a very romantic concept sold to women yearning for love. All those experts, books, courses...it's just another business.
Personally I would love to meet me twinflame, an eternal love through lives and finally finding each other is very romantic but I don't think it's true. Maybe 1 couple is real out of 100 000 who claims to be twin flames.
I read a lot of stories, sob stories but all of those women were delusional, those relationships with the man as "runner" are just BS. They didn't want to see the truth that that man was using them whenever he felt like it, or even he was abusive. Just because they labelled it as a twinflame it doesn't make them twins. Then when it doesn't work out, they label it as false twins. Maybe it's just me but this sounds like a big pile of bs.

Although I should add, it can be a valuable life lesson, realising your boundaries, your true self, what you are really looking for.



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22 Mar 2018, 10:03 am

CannibalCorpse wrote:
It's a very romantic concept sold to women yearning for love. All those experts, books, courses...it's just another business.
Personally I would love to meet me twinflame, an eternal love through lives and finally finding each other is very romantic but I don't think it's true. Maybe 1 couple is real out of 100 000 who claims to be twin flames.
I read a lot of stories, sob stories but all of those women were delusional, those relationships with the man as "runner" are just BS. They didn't want to see the truth that that man was using them whenever he felt like it, or even he was abusive. Just because they labelled it as a twinflame it doesn't make them twins. Then when it doesn't work out, they label it as false twins. Maybe it's just me but this sounds like a big pile of bs.

Although I should add, it can be a valuable life lesson, realising your boundaries, your true self, what you are really looking for.


Well I think you're right, that it's about realising your true self... and maybe also about the other person realising theirs..

In fact far more about that than anything to do with fairy tale 'true love'! I think we make bunch of assumptions about what a relationship looks like that might actually be totally wrong for us... perhaps especially women.. conditioning and so on.

Anyway for the moment I'm reserving judgement about the BS. I always think that until I'm in a position to judge (i.e. I've lived something like it myself), I have to try to suspend disbelief about things!

I'd still be really interested to hear more about people's thoughts and experiences. Even just... you know, when you've felt a really strong pull towards someone (whether romantically or in a friendship) and you can't really explain why.



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22 Mar 2018, 5:08 pm

Ah yes, I keep seeing posts about twin flames on Quora.

It seems to me that all the posts about their adoration for their "twin flame" who just does not realise that they are a twin flame yet is a bit sad. Yes you adore this person and you feel a connection with them, but sorry kiddo, it's just limerance. Been there.

However, reading through the comments of those who are in relationships with someone they consider to be their twin flame, and they both share the notion of twin flame, then they seem to be quite happy, they've found someone that they click with and they enjoy being together. That's nice. If only we could all find someone we get along with that well.

The whole twin flame thing seems to come from the idea of reincarnation. That 2 people are meant to be together throughout all of eternity and the odds of meeting them in this lifetime are slim bearing in mind there are millions of people on the earth. What if your other half gets reincarnated in New York and you live in Mumbai. Not gonna happen.

Anyway, I don't believe it. I do believe that those who have found each other are happy and they enjoy the company of their "twin flame" but I don't think it's a real thing.

In reality most people settle. But then as has been discussed on this forum many a time, most people share common traits and us oddballs who congregate in places like this, we find it difficult to find others to relate to, so when we do meet someone with interests and pleasures like ours, then we feel a brilliant connection that has more meaning and depth to use than a regular joe meeting a regular joe. We are either really lucky or really cursed. Who knows?



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22 Mar 2018, 5:15 pm

This is basically what I look for in a relationship.


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22 Mar 2018, 5:21 pm

Who even makes up such bs?



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23 Mar 2018, 1:59 am

Placing an element of magic into a relationship is always a bad idea. Only people themselves keep relationship going. Inevitably after a few years you will realize that your partner is not a mirrored copy of you, but (gasp) a actual real human being!



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23 Mar 2018, 8:26 am

314pe wrote:
Placing an element of magic into a relationship is always a bad idea. Only people themselves keep relationship going. Inevitably after a few years you will realize that your partner is not a mirrored copy of you, but (gasp) a actual real human being!


Yes indeed. Frightening thought!!
I reckon idealisation is ALWAYS a bad idea. Especially of other people, since we are all so fallible. Specially me :?



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23 Mar 2018, 11:54 pm

katy_rome wrote:
Has anyone had experience of this kind of thing


Yes. I have been manipulated by people who claimed that I was "the other half of their soul."

It is a bad idea since it will cause you to miss out on relationship opportunities. If you spend all of your time and energy on hesitating thoughts of "I don't know if I should date that person since they might not be my twin flame" - well, you're not going to get anywhere. If you spend all of your time waiting for your twin flame to come into your life "because it's our spiritual destiny" - you can expect to remain sad and alone.

It is a dangerously bad idea since it opens vulnerable people up to exploitation: "you will do what I say because we share the same soul (until such a time when I decide that my soul belongs to someone else, then I am going to pretend that you don't exist)."


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24 Mar 2018, 11:27 am

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katy_rome wrote:
Has anyone had experience of this kind of thing


Yes. I have been manipulated by people who claimed that I was "the other half of their soul."

It is a bad idea since it will cause you to miss out on relationship opportunities. If you spend all of your time and energy on hesitating thoughts of "I don't know if I should date that person since they might not be my twin flame" - well, you're not going to get anywhere. If you spend all of your time waiting for your twin flame to come into your life "because it's our spiritual destiny" - you can expect to remain sad and alone.

It is a dangerously bad idea since it opens vulnerable people up to exploitation: "you will do what I say because we share the same soul (until such a time when I decide that my soul belongs to someone else, then I am going to pretend that you don't exist)."


Yes, there's a real danger of confusing connection with codependency. And using 'twin flame' philosophy to justify codependency is downright wrong. It seems this happened to you, sounds bad.

But i reckon if you can get above and beyond that confusion.. (having read quite a lot by now about what people really experience i.e. outside of fairy tales) it seems pretty clear to me that you can have found your 'twin flame' - they don't even have to be different sex from you or in a 'love relationship' capacity - and that's it really.

You know they're there, they know you're there. You don't even have to be together, you can totally let go of that concept. If you can be at peace with yourself and them... and with the situation (whatever it is) that's the key.

To me what it brings.. is the feeling that we are ALL connected to one another on different levels... and how.. um everything is connected? Sorry sounds a bit spiritually-minded (which I'm not into), but that's how it feels.

Hm, though maybe there are some people who are not connected to anything/anyone at all (thinking of some e.g. polititcans whose names I will not mention) :mrgreen:



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01 Apr 2018, 10:13 pm

My twin flame is Riley Reid, she just doesn't know it yet.



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05 Nov 2019, 10:00 pm

It's in religious contexts and has religious origins.

It's not plain sailing or as romantic as people may think! people love the romantic idea of what a twin flame is.

I'd guess theirs this part of all of us that yearns for that significant other, in able to feel complete.



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06 Nov 2019, 9:05 am

Not a fan of this, and I was seriously into it (40 years before it got a trendy name). You build up expectations of perfection and no one is going to be perfect.

There was a song in 1970 - "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with".

Find someone who does exist and accept each other as imperfect.



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06 Nov 2019, 9:08 am

katy_rome wrote:
Does anyone know about twin flames? Has anyone had experience of this kind of thing, or heard of anyone who has? I'd be really interested in hearing anything at all about it... as it's something that's puzzling me right now.
It's just another post-New Age concept to sell more card readings, incense, and hand-woven dream-catchers.


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06 Nov 2019, 10:43 am

I like Twin Peaks better....



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06 Nov 2019, 10:54 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Who even makes up such bs?
People who want to justify their obsessive stalking of someone they've fallen in love with.

Nothing short of the Cinderella or Snow White tales, the myth of "Twin Flames" (a.k.a., "Soul Mates", "True Love", et cetera) would have you believe the twin flame relationship as the most fulfilling relationship on Earth, which comes with sacred sex, spiritual super-powers and a "Happily Ever After" ending.

People who believe in this myth will tell you that there is a 'seeker' and a 'runner' involved.  They will tell you the 'runner' is scared or not ready.  The worst part about this is the 'seeker' will put up with all sorts of emotional and spiritual abuse from the 'runner', yet they believe that if they are just patient enough and put up with enough bushlit the 'runner' will have an epiphany, come running to them, and the magic list of twin flame benefits will activate, basically fixing everything.

Unfortunately, these twin flame relationships turn out to be exploitive, as the former 'runner' realizes that he or she has a great degree of emotional influence over the 'seeker', and uses the 'seeker' for their own pleasure and material benefits.  Usually the 'seeker' will come to his or her senses, but only after realizing that their relationship with the 'runner' is not all it they had imagined it would be... and the cycle goes on and on with the 'seeker' on a never-ending quest for their one true magical partner, who will deliver all things wonderful in his or her bag of goodies.

This is one hell of a fairy tale, equally as alarming as the concept of Prince Charming coming to save Snow White from the evil witch.  The first thing wrong with the twin flame myth is that you are already a complete, sovereign being regardless of the relationship you happen to be in.  Second, finding this so called twin flame is by no means a requirement for self-actualization/enlightenment.  If you're running around looking for your 'other half' in a panic, I promise self-actualization/enlightenment will not even be an option.  The 'other half' of your soul is your very own soul.


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