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05 Nov 2020, 4:21 pm

James’ thread inspired me to post this thread.

I so relate to this social phenomena even tho I am not “disabled” nor old:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_8198826

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sexual-i ... _b_8277298


Like in the first article; Maria mentioned “ There have been a couple of times when younger male students have talked about women in my presence where I don't think they would have when I was younger, so kind of like she's not in the game anymore or at least in our game so we can say whatever we want in front of her (1).”

This actually happened to me back in the university; 4 girls next to me talking about the handsome qualities of some guys in class - as if I was not present there .
That was a real case of SI.

SI is the ultimate form of unattractiveness.



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06 Nov 2020, 1:06 pm

I posted this reply to another thread in which I had this concept in mind but in this case I wanted to point out that even young women can be sexually invisible. Here in the US there are many such women, but if some of the unhappy men here were able to sexually "see" these young women perhaps some greater happiness might come into our world.

https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=391861&p=8643156#p8643156


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06 Nov 2020, 5:05 pm

^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!



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06 Nov 2020, 8:30 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!

Rather the way you are and they way you act. May be time to change yourself a bit. :wink:


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06 Nov 2020, 9:16 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
James’ thread inspired me to post this thread.

I so relate to this social phenomena even tho I am not “disabled” nor old:


So, you are saying you have gone through menopause? 8O

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Like in the first article; Maria mentioned “ There have been a couple of times when younger male students have talked about women in my presence where I don't think they would have when I was younger, so kind of like she's not in the game anymore or at least in our game so we can say whatever we want in front of her (1).”

This actually happened to me back in the university; 4 girls next to me talking about the handsome qualities of some guys in class - as if I was not present there .
That was a real case of SI.

SI is the ultimate form of unattractiveness.


Interesting.
All my life I have wanted to be Secretly Invisible.
To each, there own. 8)



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07 Nov 2020, 2:24 am

i was sexually invisible to anybody who wasn't a pederast.



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07 Nov 2020, 3:47 am

^ That does not sound good. :(

If that is personal experience, I grieve for you.


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07 Nov 2020, 4:08 am

^^^thank you for caring :heart:



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07 Nov 2020, 6:15 am

quite an extreme wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!

Rather the way you are and they way you act. May be time to change yourself a bit. :wink:


He has changed himself. I've seen photos. I'm sick of strangers on the internet saying, "change this, change that, change the next thing".

It's honestly led me to feel very insecure about myself. I feel like I'm always trying to be a better person and that's exhausting. So much so that I've given up striving to be whatever attractive is. I just want to be myself. I don't care if anyone wants me anymore. I'm tired of pleasing other people because I always fail anyway.

But the way we talk, as autistics, I think is a huge turn off to NTs. We're too blunt and factual. They don't connect with us regardless of what body we live in or how modern our hair looks.

I didn't realise that I come over in a very controlled manner until a friend of mine pointed it out recently. English is her second language and she feels like she's often grasping for words or waffling on and beating around the bush. She praises the way I am succinct and use well chosen words in conversation. She finds me easy to understand.

I was like, do I? I didnt realise that.

I think I come over as trying to be too perfect and too robotic to other people because of this way of talking.



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07 Nov 2020, 9:22 am

hurtloam wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!

Rather the way you are and they way you act. May be time to change yourself a bit. :wink:


He has changed himself. I've seen photos. I'm sick of strangers on the internet saying, "change this, change that, change the next thing".

It's honestly led me to feel very insecure about myself. I feel like I'm always trying to be a better person and that's exhausting. So much so that I've given up striving to be whatever attractive is. I just want to be myself. I don't care if anyone wants me anymore. I'm tired of pleasing other people because I always fail anyway.

But the way we talk, as autistics, I think is a huge turn off to NTs. We're too blunt and factual. They don't connect with us regardless of what body we live in or how modern our hair looks.

I didn't realise that I come over in a very controlled manner until a friend of mine pointed it out recently. English is her second language and she feels like she's often grasping for words or waffling on and beating around the bush. She praises the way I am succinct and use well chosen words in conversation. She finds me easy to understand.

I was like, do I? I didnt realise that.

I think I come over as trying to be too perfect and too robotic to other people because of this way of talking.


Well, that is why I keep on saying, those on the spectrum should stick together.

NTs are inherently programmed differently, due to their neurological configuration.
I find most NTs superficial.
A statement of fact, not criticism, here.



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07 Nov 2020, 4:19 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!

Rather the way you are and they way you act. May be time to change yourself a bit. :wink:



Well, I am actually not in the 'game' anymore, I've simply resigned from dating ever since my ex moved; and since the disasters of 2020.

I don't have the energy for it anymore especially with this pandemic AND the financial crush (local currency devaluated 7 times in 2020), I've stopped the activities I used to do like gym and hiking, I am a stick-man again .... how are people still capable to do normal activities and meet new people and dating during this pandemic anyway?



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07 Nov 2020, 9:32 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Yes the two articles talk about two common causes of it: age and disability; but AS may cause SI too for instance!

Rather the way you are and they way you act. May be time to change yourself a bit. :wink:



Well, I am actually not in the 'game' anymore, I've simply resigned from dating ever since my ex moved; and since the disasters of 2020.

I don't have the energy for it anymore especially with this pandemic AND the financial crush (local currency devaluated 7 times in 2020), I've stopped the activities I used to do like gym and hiking, I am a stick-man again .... how are people still capable to do normal activities and meet new people and dating during this pandemic anyway?


Sexual invisibility doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Being on the internet can be a perfect place to be "Sexually Invisible", right?
You can focus on a person's character/personality, rather than their looks.

BTW, I think, more often than not, if you get to see your online friend, it is a bit of a letdown because the mind has created some sort of image, already.



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08 Nov 2020, 11:25 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Well, I am actually not in the 'game' anymore, I've simply resigned from dating ever since my ex moved; and since the disasters of 2020.

I don't have the energy for it anymore especially with this pandemic AND the financial crush (local currency devaluated 7 times in 2020), I've stopped the activities I used to do like gym and hiking, I am a stick-man again .... how are people still capable to do normal activities and meet new people and dating during this pandemic anyway?


I don't know. I haven't heard of any new relationships beginning recently.

I'm really missing going to the gym. I'm getting chubby. But I also liked the atmosphere. I don't enjoy working out at home as much.

I haven't even been going into the city centre. Theres no point.



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09 Nov 2020, 11:23 am

hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Well, I am actually not in the 'game' anymore, I've simply resigned from dating ever since my ex moved; and since the disasters of 2020.

I don't have the energy for it anymore especially with this pandemic AND the financial crush (local currency devaluated 7 times in 2020), I've stopped the activities I used to do like gym and hiking, I am a stick-man again .... how are people still capable to do normal activities and meet new people and dating during this pandemic anyway?


I don't know. I haven't heard of any new relationships beginning recently.

I'm really missing going to the gym. I'm getting chubby. But I also liked the atmosphere. I don't enjoy working out at home as much.

I haven't even been going into the city centre. Theres no point.



It’s the elephant in the room that no one is talking about when it comes to dating.

I bet there’s a whole more careless population out there who are continuing extra activities normally including dating.

Yet those wouldn’t be a great match anyway.



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14 Nov 2020, 2:22 am

^ and my car’s plate number is odd, so can’t use it on saturday according to the lockdown rules, and sunday is often a total lockdown. Dating my ass lol.



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14 Nov 2020, 3:56 am

I thought this was going to be about some kind of rather creepy superpower.


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