Ugly Guys Who Are Successful With Women
An ugly man who has bugger all to offer in a child-producing type of relationship isn't going to be a "chick magnet".
A multitude of factors collide together to influence one's dating success. People who are considered ugly by conventional beauty standards can find a partner if they meet somebody who values other qualities or attributes they possess enough to overlook a lack of physical attraction. Alternatively, they can find somebody who's about as attractive as they are, or perhaps they can find somebody with unique physical preferences that they can appeal to.
I think for the majority of people, if you look after your hygiene, appearance and body, it's going to be possible to find somebody who'll find you attractive, or at least attractive enough to consider dating so long as you have other traits they're interested in.
I think it's harder for autistic people to find partners and get into relationships, largely because of social skill difficulties and our differences to the general population. If you break down the word "relationship", you get the word "relate", and essentially a relationship is all about finding someone who you relate to. It's harder to find people you can more easily relate to when you're in the neurological minority.
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2) If he liked a girl, he would almost always walk up to her and try to get her number.
Both of these points are important. You need to put yourself out there. People meet other people through mutual friends. Going to social events and knowing people gives you more opportunities.
Even if an less attractive person has a lower success rate than an average, if they put themselves out there a lot and talk to women, they'll get more dates than a better looking person who is shy or not very social.
A person with a 15% success rate who meets 100 women will have more dates than someone with a 30% success rate who only meets 5 women.
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Carl sounds suspiciously like my friend's Dad. Do we know each other?
I'm only joking. But yes, I know someone like Carl too. He had a cool hairdo, and mustache in the 80s and a cool leather jacket. But not the tallest or most handsome young man.
He's good at talking to people. He takes an interest. He really should have been a salesman.
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I'm only joking. But yes, I know someone like Carl too. He had a cool hairdo, and mustache in the 80s and a cool leather jacket. But not the tallest or most handsome young man.
He's good at talking to people. He takes an interest. He really should have been a salesman.
Also I generally do not like to use terms like Ugly or Physically Unattractive. Those terms can be very insulting & relative.
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The OP's posts read like some self-help website, with generic, anecdotal stories; doesn't sound like any of these folks are real people in the OP's life. All we need now is the link to buy a subscription to whatever plan that's being offered.
I know it's good to think positive, but don't believe everything you read. If there's one thing Aspies are stereotypically good at, it's commitment to reality, not rosy groupthink.
I am committed to reality, and the reality is most people are average-looking and will end up with other average-looking people. All I have ro do to confirm this is scroll through my Facebook friends' pages.
If you want to believe that only super model-like men can get into relationships, and use that as a way to make yourself feel better, great, cool, but that has little enough to do with "reality."
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I agree.
That's not what I believe or want to believe. Where do you get this crap from? The OP gave a bunch of anecdotes about ugly men...or men he thinks are ugly (they may not actually be ugly in the eyes of most women). Regardless, the OP himself never said anything about men he'd describe as "average." And no one mentioned super models but you.
For someone allegedly grounded in reality, you make some outlandish assumptions and like to put words in the mouths of others.
When the hell did I ever say only super model men can get women? What I said was that the OP's writings all sound like feel-good fluff. Not genuine. Not actual experiences or real people. This thread reads like an ad. And yet people believe because they want to believe. This is like watching P.T. Barnum in action.
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No, beauty is mostly objective with a little bit of subjectivity.
Most people would agree that Margot Robbie is way more conventionally attractive than Danny Devito, or that Chris Hemsworth is more physically attractive compared to Jack Black, that's objective attractiveness. In fact, there are universal traits that are considered attractive throughout the world such as facial symmetry, tall height (in the case of men), being physically fit, and facial features that are close to the golden ratio. If you take most film stars and models, their face matches the golden ratio fairly closely. In fact, oftentimes the farther you deviate from the golden ratio, the less attractive you are perceived to be.
Yes, some men prefer blondes over brunettes, or have a preference for specific races of girls, or like girls with big butts, this is subjective attractiveness. But for the most part, a lot of what is considered beautiful is objective
I'm only joking. But yes, I know someone like Carl too. He had a cool hairdo, and mustache in the 80s and a cool leather jacket. But not the tallest or most handsome young man.
He's good at talking to people. He takes an interest. He really should have been a salesman.
But he wasn't *UGLY*, right?
I'm only joking. But yes, I know someone like Carl too. He had a cool hairdo, and mustache in the 80s and a cool leather jacket. But not the tallest or most handsome young man.
He's good at talking to people. He takes an interest. He really should have been a salesman.
Also I generally do not like to use terms like Ugly or Physically Unattractive. Those terms can be very insulting & relative.
My understanding is the context of this thread *was* about men who are "Ugly or Physically Unattractive".
Nothing about skunks, however.
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