AlexDatepsych on Chris Williamson podcast

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23 Feb 2023, 10:12 pm

I'm listening to this right now and it's really good. I know AlexDatepsych has been spoken of positively among a lot of people who vary between MGTOW and light-red pill out to people who are really interested the collision of social psychology and evolutionary psychology.

What AlexDatePsych is discussing with Chris Williamson as far as the number of people dropping out of the mating and dating world seem to be accelerated by a combination of structural and technological. Some of this is that the existence of social media makes for something of a panopticon where any awkward thing you say or do could be posted to TikTok and the situation of social media also meaning that there's no privacy for relationships and relationship status as well. We've also built higher walls for everybody such as it being more commonly seen by guys as 'creepy' to approach a woman in public and something like >%85 women preferring that the man approach. Then there's the question of whether coworkers should date. The overall gist is that we're making a culture that freezes us out of mating and dating by the way both the social customs (putting a chokehold for what's seen as socially acceptable places and ways to tap someone on the shoulder confidently) and codes of behavior and morality are adding to this and there's as well the way that technology fuses with as mentioned above.

It would be interesting to see how many people who'd watch this and say 'Yes, I 100% relate' and how many people as well might say 'I have no idea what this guy's talking about'. The one thing I haven't really understood well is how life does seem to socially shelter some people vs. others who have to accept that just the nuances of their body language, how they look, how they speak, sets people on edge or creeps / grosses them out (I mean honestly... NT's can decide you're pure evil for nothing but just looking slightly different in your deeper demeanor or 'structure of self' - whether someone lives in perpetual anxiety/terror of who'll randomly blow up on them vs. people who get enough of a pass on that to blame others on the rare instances where it does makes a HUGE impact on how comfortable you are socializing).

Another aside - I hope it's not needed but please don't tirade the thumbnail. If it looks awful enough to tell you everything about the content just refer to the paragraphs above to track the topic of conversation. I normally try not to say things like this but I'm more concerned that the topic (and content) are important enough that I really don't want to see picayune derailment. It's got too much importance economically, demographically, and just in terms of what kind of future we're looking forward to. For example it's getting well known what kinds of things happen to economies under demographic decline - a lot of people say it's never happened in recorded history without plagues or genocides and we have no idea how we'll deal with a population top-heavy in seniors and 20-30% of the population working aged adults.


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24 Feb 2023, 3:35 am

A female acquaintance once complained to me about her gym: "No one is even saying hello anymore!".

And I was like "Yes, they shouldn't. You should".



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24 Feb 2023, 8:46 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A female acquaintance once complained to me about her gym: "No one is even saying hello anymore!".

And I was like "Yes, they shouldn't. You should".

As is usual I'm really glad they made the case that it's really difficult to tell with the TikTokers who are making men fear that how much of it is actually them believing that a situation is exactly as they portray it vs. whether or not it really is a Machiavellian play for clicks (for people who don't know what we're talking about - it's videos of certain women with unfinished or slow weight setups complaining that a guy glanced over, then complaining that the same guy comes up and asks 'Do you need any help?' without any leering involved - this has less to do with 'men' or 'women' per say than rather sociopathic exploits of the attention economy).


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24 Feb 2023, 11:24 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A female acquaintance once complained to me about her gym: "No one is even saying hello anymore!".

And I was like "Yes, they shouldn't. You should".

As is usual I'm really glad they made the case that it's really difficult to tell with the TikTokers who are making men fear that how much of it is actually them believing that a situation is exactly as they portray it vs. whether or not it really is a Machiavellian play for clicks (for people who don't know what we're talking about - it's videos of certain women with unfinished or slow weight setups complaining that a guy glanced over, then complaining that the same guy comes up and asks 'Do you need any help?' without any leering involved - this has less to do with 'men' or 'women' per say than rather sociopathic exploits of the attention economy).



The politics part is irrelevant, but the first part is true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWhbY97pa ... eW1vcmU%3D



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24 Feb 2023, 11:54 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The politics part is irrelevant, but the first part is true

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWhbY97pa ... eW1vcmU%3D

Oh yeah, I saw Better Bachelor ('Joker with a face for radio and a voice for print') go over these.

IMHO we confuse having a sociopath problem for having a gender problem. Small percentages of men have women living Mission Impossible in how to secure their houses, make sure no one snuck in, etc., and they increasingly have men terrified of women - as I said earlier - with the same magical random box where for women it's any man they don't know has a 3% chance of being a rapist to any man there's some comparable chance that a woman is a solipsistic force of nature who'll weaponize any social norm or even legal system at her disposal to ring the world out. Lacking perfect knowledge of the character of people we don't know these heuristics carve society at it's joints.

I'm really looking forward to a day where we do take this effect seriously enough to take measured but well-organized action to make our systems more resilient to dark tetrad rather than playing partisan or gender politics.


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