Found a website...
Thought it might be useful for some of us.
http://www.datinggroundwork.com/index.html
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about the person
I'm a 26-year old guy who lives in Canada. I'd consider myself contentedly average when it comes to women. I'm currently in a two-year relationship. Before that I dated a little and had a few hook-ups. Nothing worth writing home about - any halfway cool guy has done the same things if he's been so inclined - but it's a far cry from where I started.
I didn't lose my virginity, or even kiss a girl until I was in my 20's. And even after that it still took me a lot of time to get over many of my issues. Looking back, I think my biggest problem was that I was extremely anxious around the opposite sex. But I was also a very dorky, socially awkward guy who spent much more time playing video games than hanging around with other people.
Like lots of guys, for a while I thought my salvation lay in learning a bunch of tricks and techniques to pick up girls. That did help me somewhat, but I started making the most progress when I got to work on improving my underdeveloped people skills and becoming a more genuinely attractive, sociable person. Things started to click into place after that. It was a slow process to make up for my years of interpersonal inexperience, and to get over my various insecurities and hang ups, but I gradually started to become more of the kind of person I wanted to be and have the kind of success I was looking for.
I'm not saying for a second I'm some kind of expert on the opposite sex, but I do think I've learned some things about going from Below Average to Average in that department that can help other guys that are in the same position I was once in.
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Things like being friendly, fun, funny, or interesting will aid you with women just as well as they'll help with anyone. So will things like having an interesting hobby, knowing good places to go, having nice style, being adept at conversation, or having lots of life experience. When you've got a lot going for you, meeting a woman can become more about you just being your cool self and her naturally becoming interested, rather than doing a bunch of complicated stuff to make her like you.
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Improving yourself overall isn't as bad. It's a 'wax on, wax off' kind of thing. You can do nothing to directly get better with women for months on end, but devote your time to things like hanging out with your friends, hanging out with really cool people and becoming more like them, acquiring new knowledge about the world, being more fun, learning to dance, playing the guitar, traveling, working through your hang ups and insecurities, practicing conversation, and a million other possibilities. This will hardly be nerve racking and emotionally draining. At the end of this period you'll be better with people as a whole. When you go back to interacting with women you may be shocked at how much more effortless and natural it now is compared to before. The right things to say will tend to flow out of the new, improved person you've truly become.
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The man behind the Dating Groundwork site also has another website called Succeed Socially. Good advice, and not just for guys.
http://www.succeedsocially.com/about.html
When I did that things just started clicking into place. Nothing miraculously happened overnight but through a slow, steady process I started to become more of a normal guy. It was easier to make friends and get along with people I'd just met. I actually had plans on the weekend. My life was more fun and interesting.
That's where I stand now and I'm still improving. I'm not the coolest guy in the club and my life hasn't reached some perfect sunny plateau either. But I hope the things I learned along the way can help people who are in a similar situation to the one I was in.
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Dating Groundwork is written for a male readership, but the Succeed Socially site offers useful advice for anyone wishing to develop these "basic social skills."
Too often it's assumed that being born female is enough to equip a person with all the intuition and nous required to get through life and to deal with other people. This is simply untrue. A woman with Aspergers has to go through her own learning process to acquire these skills - because they don't come naturally for us, either.
This man's advice seems sound, reasonable, and well-thought-out. He has a healthy suspicion of gimmicks and quick fixes. It's a shame that twenty or thirty years ago, there wasn't the same level of awareness about the autistic spectrum that there is now, or online resources such as these.
Thanks for posting this, werbert.
