Should Scientists Date People Who Believe in Astrology?

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http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008 ... entis.html

What do you guys think? I think this guy is being way too picky...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8P0YmgQTbA[/youtube]

Why Yes, I Do think that guy is being way too picky. As for The Big Bang Theory, its so funny I forgot to laugh . I do wonder why people find it amusing.

Assuming the belief in astrology implies the individual thinks it's valid is just silly since it can socially serve as a common medium for communication/sharing information. Many social rituals tend to be rather arbitrary, but the point isn't to have something that's logically consistent, it's to have something common. It seems that some people try to analyze too much IMO.

Last edited by yesplease on 10 Mar 2008, 10:05 am, edited 1 time in total.

There are worse beliefs than astrology in fact astrology at least tries to sound scientific while most new agers don't even try.

I am surprised how many aspies are into astrology, probably even more so the NTs in general.

Thats even worse. Pseudo-science fools people into believing their beliefs are valid through using words which are similar to, or the same as, scientific nomenclature. They have no basis in scientific fact. I wouldn't date anyone who believes in astrology, not because they believe in astrology exactly, but because their superstitious nature conflicts with my more "mundane" nature.

Last edited by Kalister1 on 10 Mar 2008, 12:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Fully agreed.

It depends on what he's looking for in a relationship. If you're eventually going to have children, especially, it's a poor choice to involve yourself with someone who has beliefs you think are silly. Personally, I do not feel that I could bring myself to love and respect a potential partner who believed in something that was so easily debunked. However, if I fell for someone and then found out he believed in astrology, I might be able to do it. I still don't think it would be a great choice to continue in that relationship though. During those times when I'm not feeling all lovey-dovey and mesmerized by the other person's good qualities, I don't want to be bound to someone with whom I can't even reason. I tend to admire people who are constantly open to reviewing available evidence and reevaluating their own beliefs and behavior.

I notice that the author of the article compares the irrational belief in astrology with the irrational beliefs inherent to OCD. Apparently he doesn't understand the definition of the word "compulsion". The two can't fairly be compared unless a particular individual's belief in astrology is a manifestation of his OCD... which seems unlikely to me. I see the point: all human beings are irrational. Yes, but not all irrational behaviors are created equal. Compulsion =/= superstition.

Of course, astrology in the sense that you can predict the future based on when you were born and the alignment of the stars is completely fake. The one element of truth is that a person's behavior can be slightly influenced by the time of year they were born.

But that's besides the point. Your question was, should a scientist date someone who beleives in astrology. The answer is, do you WANT to date someone who beleives in astrology. Believe me, i've tried searching for somebody who shares all beliefs and all of my logic. it has never happened and it may never happen. It's alright to choose a partner who holds different beliefs to you, in fact i've never felt my intelligence truly challenged in a conversation as I do when the other person disagrees with me. If you enjoy disagreeing with a person from time to time because you relish the challenge, as they do you, you can have a very strong relationship.

There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay worse things than astrology. As I said it at least triest to pretend to be intelligent tries to appeal to the intellect. Things like

this
http://www.mrfire.com/article-archives/ ... apist.html

Do not try to look smart or appear smart

In this text you see above my fellow scientist the person claims that he cured a whole damn hospital simply by saying i love you. Simply that. He doesn't even give a psedoscientific theory to back up his claim.

He doesn't produce "his own" evidence like maharishi does.

No, he just claims "it's a law". And MILLIONS of people believe in him. The person I gave you isn't some unknown scammer. He's one of the most popular self-help authors.


When he came to poland the tickets were sold out.


And there are even worse things than that. I spent 3 ***** months on a "profesional" bioenergotherapy (that's how they called it ) course (which strangely had astrology in it) (and some pseudodemonology totally christian totally biased). It basically claimed that you kneel down before a sick person, pray, and boom cancer healed. It might sound stupid but I if i would attend only one additional semester I would get a licence to "be a healer" that's at least what they said.



The people that were there were generally nice, almost infantile even. When I gave one of them a copy of my notes which I made in there he actually hugged me. That was an unusual response, but normal in such circles. That's actually the reason of my present mild (not serious) depresion. I spent more than 3 months attending a course filled with how to say as not sound rude. Care bears?



Plus, there's a LOT of hypocricy there. Such as "a morbidly obese person selling wonder diet pills" or a blind person healing the blind etc.


Litelary there was a blind person there claiming she did spiritual healing for everything. ( I guess she would include blindness as such therapist generally believe in holism which in this instance translates as " one thing cures all by magic". )

At least those people do not pervert scientific legitimacy with pseudoscience. There has always been spiritual charlatans, but the new age "scientific" posturing of these charlatans is much worse. The spiritual can easily be shown as nothing more than a joke, while these pseudoscience claims aspire to much more legitimacy.

Yeah I can even scare you with

TM AND MAHARISHI EFFECT IN SCHOOLS

or

State founded donations for homeopathy.

etc.


But would you rather date someone who believes someone who at least appears smart or someone who believes stuff like the stuff joe vitale preaches?


I would rather date someone who believes in astrology than that stuff.

Let's ommit than the fact that I would LOVE to date someone who's into left hand path occultism:)

Though I heard you are dead sexy, I'm taken

Hmm. I tend to be put off by things like a belief in astrology as well. That is in a potential long-term partner, not in a friendship or other type of relationship.

But if I found myself liking someone who appeared to believe in astrology, I would want to get to know him/her better and then decide if we were compatible. I might come to appreciate their beliefs through a better understanding of them.

Strangely enough, someone could easily get the impression that I believe in astrology. The truth is that I do not believe in it, but I find it interesting because I'm intrigued by systems. Especially belief systems. Especially those that don't make much sense at a glance.

A lot of people assume that if you read books about astrology, you must believe in it. I would prefer that someone talk to me and find out what I really believe before making that assumption, so I would give the same respect to anyone else.

Oh yeah, that stuff is creepy!

I love astrology and have some beliefs in it, please don't condenm me.