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14 Mar 2008, 10:38 am

Ok so I'll try to make this make as much sense as possible b/c it's important to me.

It all started two semesters ago at my college I was a very shy guy who didn't even try to get girls or talk to them or even barely thing about it. It's not that I didn't like them its that I had been alone so long that I just subconsciously assumed I would be forever and sorta thought that if anything were to happen it would be entirely by a womans attempts towards me. Well in my Prin. Bio 2 class I see this really cute blond and she looks at me for a few seconds in the eyes (now understand that then much like now my problems aren't an inability to recognize a persons feelings through body language, but simply a total lack of experience which is similar but as I move forward it moves back) so I think she likes me but I don't even consider trying to go after her at all. Now through out this semester she will look at me and laugh at my REALLY AWFUL JOKES I'm serious NO ONE LAUGHED just her ONLY her so I knew she like me but deep down I felt I would certainly fail.
Well this goes on until about the end of the semester when my mother starts talking to me about whether or not I plan on having a family. So I start to really think about that and it turns out I have no chance at all if I don't go after them. Well I decide to go after the blond girl (lets just call her LAC for sort it's her initials) well she looks a long look at me b4 class but I'm nervous b/c I'm really considering talking to her well it's the last day of the class and we finish our finals she leaves first so I rush to complete my test (MY FINAL LOL well I still got an A) and go after her but she is waaay ahead of me like a whole football field and theres no way I can think of to run after her w/o looking nuts so I just try to move on. After a summer of many poor attempts to get girls at my first job and much pressing of chest upon me (which is apparently a BIG flirt also didn't know at the time do now and she was a cutie too :( ) right in my back, I end up learning a whole lot there and come back the next semester ready to try much harder.
Well it starts and lo and behold the very same girl in my Botany 1 class and she is still really cute! Well at this point I have learned how I send my nonverbal signals that I like them ( I already did this but didn't recognize it again my big problem is experience AS just makes me a little neurotic and strange) so there I am giving her the LOOK :) and she looks over and sees me

Now I make sure not to stare b/c that would freak her out and I only look a few times when she's looking and others I don't look so she can. Well it turns out she is a really nervous girl which I hadn't noticed last semester b/c she sat on the other side of the room. Her knee is bopping up and down, shes biting her nails and looking over alot to see if I'm really looking at her (which is where I stopped looking fearing maybe she was freaked out thinking I stalked her there) which I was a few times. Now later she trys having a friend and coming behind me to talk while I'm at the vending machine now apparently girls seem to think I listen in on there conversations b/c they have them for me (one girl I had asked out suddenly in the parking lot at work w/ no warning told me she had a date with her boyfriend that night now later on she's right behind me at work talking very loudly about how her boyfriend sux and what not and thats another long story but didn't work out again inexperience) well I don't listen in b/c I think thats just rude so I never do it even now after having learned it can be useful.

(I make the paragraphs for ease of reading not grammar correctness)

Well this continued for awhile until one day I stopped looking at her well she starts looking at me much more and gets really nervous again most likely b/c she thinks I don't like her. Which is kinda true thats the signal I wanted to send and consciously didn't look at her (I felt that I was only leading her on b/c I can't work up the nerve to speak with her even though on more than one occasion she starts talking to me and I'm just to nervous to keep it up) well it's during that time that I over hear her speaking to the girl next to her who had asked if she was alright and she says to her that she likes me and doesn't think I like her anymore ( OK OK OK OMG I KNOW I'm ret*d but I heard them say stuff like this alot but just disregarded it thinking they didn't know I could hear them turns out the wanted me too I didn't know they were much quieter) well the soon after the other girl starts talking to me and trying to get me talking well after some awkward moments I manage to sit beside her in class and she's right behind the girl I like!! ! She tries talking to me again to no avail but the other girl (whom will now be BR) offers that we start a study group I accept and offer up my straight A's as a good enough reason to let one guy tag along with two pretty girls to a hang out spot to study alone with them (it was really nice b/c I had'nt been out in a really long time) well I tell a story LAC laughs but not BR (my jokes stink really bad I'm trying to stop enirely b/c there not helping me much) well she tells me one and I think to myself laugh OMG LAUGH YOU IDIOT sure enough she get a little less happy b/c I don't laugh....

Well as the night goes on I mention some girls I know and she keeps asking WHOS THAT WHOS THAT? well apparently thats a little sign that a girl likes you b/c she wants to know if they're romantic rivals. At the end of the night when were leaving she asks me to walk her to her car ofcourse I didn't know that was my chance to ask her a private thing like for her # or a date. Well the next day she tries to talk to me but damned if I not to nervous again and just let the conversation end badly (thats a big problem for me I know what to do but just can't make my body do it at the right time) next day her new friend (they met b/c of me :P) is all "tude" with me now I know why and move away well as LAC comes in I give her the look which I hadn't done since I stopped and she smiles I smile back and she walks by me (no I didn't say anything I thought it was a pity smile b/c she didn't like me) well the next day her friend tries to talk to me (now I was in full defense mode, earplugs in music on high, hat down and in my own world) she lifts my hat and starts smiling big and talking to me I blow her off b/c I was upset about her ignoring me last time.

Well it stays like that for awhile. Then I start looking at LAC again to start things over again well she tries a diff. approach this time she tries to get a guy to talk to me. Well this guy I knew liked her so I get upset and ignore him now I'm going to skip way ahead b/c this stuff goes on and on like this until the end of semester. Well she has tried everything and she tries the guy again and I TOTALLY IGNORE HIM b/c he'd been flirting with her all that week and it pissed me off then I walked by her and didn't look at her ( plus I think her friend thought I liked her) well she starts crying in the hall I feel awful I was just upset about that guy talking to her (and admittedly trying to manipulate her by showing I was upset by it but she ends up thinking I'm mad at her and not him) well last day again and I'm talking to her friend BR and she's really talking to me which she hadn't done in a while I'm getting happy enjoying myself when she up and calls LAC on the phone tells her to come over. Well she doesn't say hi and gets "tude" when I laugh at a problem she's telling a friend. When the test is over I'M FIRST OUT THIS TIME and I wait for her she comes out w/ BR and they start walking off I say HEY LAC she stops walking but doesn't move I say it again HEY LAC she turns and asks her friend "*mouthing* What does he want?" well I say [/i]alright[i] and walk the other way. Well she goes outside and I glance back and they stopped walking and were talking well I walk off assuming I'll never she her again.

This semester started she had a class across from one of mine. Well I see her the FIRST FRIGGIN DAY and we stare at each other but I break the stare and look away like nothing happened. She jumps out of my line of sight and urges this guy friend ( I say friend b/c she used him trying to get me too so she probably doesn't have romance in mind for him) to move he looks in the door and she pulls him away from it. Now next few days I sit outside class once I was in class and she looked at me again well I figured I'd try one more time and talk to her. She sees me outside class sitting there and turns away and runs off ( I should note thats this girls has serious nervous issues I know just from the short time I was with her she gets scared easily but potential conflict) well in the end she just quits the class don't know if it was me or what but I try talking to the guy to pass on a message to her he says he doesn't know her I say alright and walk away (I do believe he has a flame for her but not other way around I'm telling you my problem is experience and well nerve too not reading people lot of good it does me though) well I send her a face book message apologizing and saying we should be friends leaving an e-mail to contact me. She just changes her pic to one of her and her new boyfriend she met just a few weeks b4 well I drop it and try to move on (still trying I really like her :( ) well I see her friend BR around she doesn't say hi or anything and a while later I she LAC again in a place I never see her outside a diff class and she's right in front of me looks back at me looks forward and holds the door open looking back at me from the side. I go through and walk fast I mean I was upset again like new so I'm nearly running away :cry: really wanted to just collapse and cry ( I'm depressed alot and I haven't cried since I was 15) well I get to the next building and look at the door to see if anyone is behind me (it's a polite thing I learned it's basically a way to check if someone is behind you so you can hold open the door, I've done it so long it's a reflex) well there she is RIGHT THERE she has never b4 or since been anywhere near those two places again. Well I hold the door open but stare at ground b/c I'm pretty upset although I know I'm hiding it well it just looks like I'm being polite but not looking at her. She says thank you with some odd tone in it not anger I just don't know what it was. We'll time passes and I see her friend at Burger King and I look at her for like five seconds in complete shock that she could exist anywhere near me ( I was just still upset obviously) well she is not looking she does stop walking and moving at all like my eyes are freeze rays. I look away and continue to pack up my things to leave BK well she walks into the order line and stops directly behind me and just looks at me ( I saw it out of corner of my eye and theres no one infront of her in line she just standing in the middle of the ropes looking at me) I finish and throw my stuff away then leave. Well I still like her and her friend ( to be honest I crushed on one for looks the other for personality they were so awesome which makes it harder to say good bye) well I was wondering if this means anything (I don't intend to seek them out) I just want to know if I should try to talk to them next time I see them or if I should send them a facebook or if I should just ignore them and never try again.


I really hope that made sense b/c it took alot to make this much sense if not just ask for clarity.

I do have other girls to go after it's just she was really cool we never argued or anything just sort of let it die so it was only just sad not mad. I just wanted to say all that here one b/c no one at home listens to my problems and two b/c I hoped for some advice or maybe a way to get over her ( first really big crush I've ever had, only girl I ever got close to emotionally besides my mother.)

Like I said very long plz read it all though :D


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14 Mar 2008, 1:55 pm

Wow. How can two shy, nervous people get together?
I wish I knew.
I guess I would keep sending friendly messages on Facebook. Friendly, not pushy, not sexual. Asking opinion about a movie, sharing opinion about a class.
I don't know.
I just wanted you to know I read your whole post.



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14 Mar 2008, 1:55 pm

Why dont you just ask her out instead of playing all these games - an email or something would be best (less pressure). I know its hard, but you're not going anywhere otherwise.



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14 Mar 2008, 2:05 pm

wow, sounds like one really drawn out ordeal.

I am not saying this would be easy, far from it, but I would tell the girl "Hey, I need to talk to you." and get it out. Use words like "I feel", and "I think" stay away from "you" words.

Find a place that you can talk alone, but not utterly alone. Somewhere where you can't be overheard, but there a people around. (For a more secure/safety thing, a "i can get away if i just take 5 steps" feeling because you do say that she seems nervous, and it might be a good thing for you too.

You won't have to spend you life saying "what if?" Just take a deep breath and dive in. At the end of the conversation you will most likely have either closure or at least a better understanding.

Best hopes,

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14 Mar 2008, 7:52 pm

I think I didn't make enough sense.. see the last time I saw her was like two weeks ago when she just showed up out of nowhere and followed me to another building (I think) and then I saw her friend who knows me was looking at me which normally girls ignore me if they don't like me and don't need to talk to me about something (its what I do to ppl I don't like too) thing is I can't send her a facebook b/c the last one didn't get a response now at the time I think I gave the wrong e-mail but that doesn't matter now I just want to know what to do should I see her should I try to say hi to her or her friend or just let it go?


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15 Mar 2008, 7:37 am

You should definately say hi to her when you see her again - you two have known each other long enough now that it would be a normal thing to do, but at the same time would move things up a level. Dont be discouraged if she doesnt say hi back the first time - she might be too amazed to think of replying quickly enough. But if you keep on saying hi each time you bump into her, or smile at least, then it lets her know that you do notice her. You might find it gets easier to speak to her after that and you can move up to asking 'how are you' and questions about your classes and so on.