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30 Sep 2008, 8:40 pm

I have spoken with a friend about an attitude that girls are attracted to. He mentioned this a couple of times months ago, and it really caught my interest, because it was such a new take on things.

It's another combination. Cocky & Funny, Playful & Confident, are now taking a backseat to something more fresh, and I don't know, but possibly more effective. The developer as far as I know is the only one using it as a system, so I guess we could say it's still in its beta stages.

Al0oF

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ObLiVi0Us

Now, there's a catch.

Al0of - Indifferent.

ObLiVi0Us - To her Indicators of Interest/Flirting/Teasing.

So... when interacting, you practice indifference. That means, to me, not trying to pet her like a puppy for having a bad day, not going "Aaaaawwwwwww" and being patronizing to her like a weak animal. This attitude also shows that YOU are a strong animal. You're a formidable beast with emotions that have either died or been repressed. This, my Aspies, means being Aloof. And it's more about what you choose to avoid doing than what you actually do. How can you ever be stuck in the friend zone when you have so little empathy, sympathy for the world? How can you be labelled as a nice guy when you're relatively cold, dettached, but interesting nonetheless?

If this girl, while you're exchanging words, physical touch, begins showing interest in you, the wrong choice made by most men is to jump all over it in desperation. How about instead of flirting back all the time, you practice ignorance toward her coquetting. How about instead of being a complete horn dog to her, you show there's more to you than being just a sexual creature (which is important to still convery, but in MODERATION)....

Now, I draw some lines in being oblivious. Draw a line to where you will flirt and tease her, but she has to do most of the work on you instead. Flip the table, turn conventions on their head, by showing you aren't that won over by f & t, but you are still capable of it. That way, when you do decide to f & t, it holds more WEIGHT. Meaning.

Aloof & Oblivious. Drink the cyanide.

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30 Sep 2008, 8:51 pm

I've been aloof and oblivious my entire life and never had a date.

And I've been legitimately aloof and oblivious. Not just acting, or faking some contrived attitude as a lame attempt to get laid.


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30 Sep 2008, 9:06 pm

You're only 18. Here's a thought: go and talk to more women?

Naw. Talking to more women is just a lame attempt at getting layed. Then again, so is having a girlfriend.

Nevermind.

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30 Sep 2008, 9:10 pm

Believe me, I've tried this all my life. Let's face it; this "strategy" is actually who I am as a person. It doesn't work. Trust me. IT DOESNT WORK. And I've talked to plenty of women.


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30 Sep 2008, 9:59 pm

being aloof and mysterious can work very well depending on the nature of the person who is acting as such.

for example, a 6'4" good looking rocker type guy with a Harley Davidson and tattoos that says few words, gives little implication as to his thoughts, and generally acts aloof and mysterious is probably going to generate a significant amount of interest.

however, another guy who is unremarkable and nobody really pays much attention to in the first place probably won't have as much success in acting aloof and myserious. lol

personally I've found that just being laid back and friendly works fine. but as they say, each to his own. everyone has different things that work for them.



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30 Sep 2008, 10:07 pm

This sounds like the male version of "hard to get." As to its effectiveness, I agree with Diamond_Head. It might work for some guys, but only if the girl already has a spark of interest. Indifference alone will not create attraction.



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30 Sep 2008, 10:23 pm

Interact with more women. And if you've done that with success, present the way you did it to help others out.

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30 Sep 2008, 10:27 pm

Sir_Beefy wrote:
Believe me, I've tried this all my life. Let's face it; this "strategy" is actually who I am as a person. It doesn't work. Trust me. IT DOESNT WORK. And I've talked to plenty of women.


Wrong. It doesn't work for you. I've gotten women interested by being aloof, so it works for some.

What works for you, Sir_Beefy?

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30 Sep 2008, 10:33 pm

There are no absolute rules. It depends on who you are, what you want, and who you are attracting. Practicing a degree of restraint when interacting with someone is certainly reasonable, and being patronizing is bad form to treat anyone that way - but I do not see how what you describe is anything other than social manipulation - which if that is your goal, will certainly work... but it isn't something that I ascribe to. There seems to be a constant and pervasive dislike of being a 'nice guy' or a friend - and that just seems kind of silly to me. When I was younger, I tried playing such games, and they did not work at all for me... it was a waste of time, and I wasn't being myself.


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30 Sep 2008, 10:39 pm

V4der, you seem awful defensive of your idea - enough for me to assume it's your philosophy and not just some friend's philosophy.

Where your take on it can work, it's entirely dependant upon you and the girls you're aiming for. For me, I prefer the "I actually give a f**k" attitude, and the girls that are actually worth my time seem to come frequently enough. But that's me I guess, because I actually do give a f**k - and being dishonest to a girl just to get her in the sack, or hell, lying about who I am in an attempt to start an actual relationship is pathetic.



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30 Sep 2008, 10:47 pm

Legato wrote:
V4der, you seem awful defensive of your idea - enough for me to assume it's your philosophy and not just some friend's philosophy.


I didn't develop Aloof & Oblivious. Another member of this forum did. The thread's title is like that for a reason. Yet, I believe it holds a lot of water.

Anywho. I am more of the offensive type.

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Where your take on it can work, it's entirely dependant upon you and the girls you're aiming for. For me, I prefer the "I actually give a f**k" attitude, and the girls that are actually worth my time seem to come frequently enough. But that's me I guess, because I actually do give a f**k - and being dishonest to a girl just to get her in the sack, or hell, lying about who I am in an attempt to start an actual relationship is [b]pathetic.[/b]


Agreed. So become.

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01 Oct 2008, 2:20 am

V4der wrote:
You're only 18. Here's a thought: go and talk to more women?

Don't have even the slightest clue of how to approach a woman that I'm interested in. I can talk to them, sure, but have no real idea of how to initiate any type of romantic relationship.

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Naw. Talking to more women is just a lame attempt at getting layed. Then again, so is having a girlfriend.

Your little tip was pretty obviously a cheap ploy to try to seduce women. If you wanted more than to get in her pants, you probably wouldn't want to do so by pretending to be something you're not.


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01 Oct 2008, 3:38 am

Orwell wrote:
Don't have even the slightest clue of how to approach a woman that I'm interested in. I can talk to them, sure, but have no real idea of how to initiate any type of romantic relationship.


I'd be willing to help you in that area.

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Your little tip was pretty obviously a cheap ploy to try to seduce women. If you wanted more than to get in her pants, you probably wouldn't want to do so by pretending to be something you're not.


Become.

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01 Oct 2008, 6:02 am

Diamond_Head wrote:
being aloof and mysterious can work very well depending on the nature of the person who is acting as such.

for example, a 6'4" good looking rocker type guy with a Harley Davidson and tattoos that says few words, gives little implication as to his thoughts, and generally acts aloof and mysterious is probably going to generate a significant amount of interest.

however, another guy who is unremarkable and nobody really pays much attention to in the first place probably won't have as much success in acting aloof and myserious. lol

personally I've found that just being laid back and friendly works fine. but as they say, each to his own. everyone has different things that work for them.


This is the first time that I agree with you.

You have matured much since your first thread which had the same misleading concept of Vader's suggestion (if my way X works for me then it works for all men.) , remember?



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01 Oct 2008, 8:58 am

Maybe it's an age thing...........but of a bloke acts indifferently I assume.....he's indifferent, that seems to be a logical conclusion.

So, I wouldn't waste my time on him, why on earth would I when there are good, genuine guys about, who are complimentary and engaging.

The aloof/indifferent approach is a very immature one, that would only work on immature women/girls..............let's face it people can be immature at any age!

If someone is looking for a genuine relationship with someone with a brain, this approach will leave you mean and moodily sitting alone.


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01 Oct 2008, 9:03 am

I wouldn't be attracted to a guy like that!
If he acted like that to me i would think he was a D**k and wouldn't bother with him. He would be acting like one of those 'cool guys' in the films that treat woman like dirt. nosiree!


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