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24 Jan 2009, 5:55 am

In the "old days" there was no "dating".

They talked about walking out or courting.
Young people were looking for life partners.

With all due respect young men would mix with young women and they would choose life partners.

Today the television is full of "thirty somethings" "dating" people.

What the hell does that mean? That you are on your best behavior and that you will have sex the first or second or third time you see someone?

Then you reject them.
Like Seinfeld, "She was great but she chewed with her mouth open or had funny laugh".

Do you want a life partner or not?

If so RESPECT YOURSELF and demand a partner who has self respect.
Do you want to marry a slut? Then don't be a slut.



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24 Jan 2009, 6:09 am

Eh?

People can date and then go on to get married you know.



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27 Jan 2009, 7:45 pm

I think I understand the OP's point, though I suggest reading the book More Sex is Safer Sex by Steve Landsburg. Let's take many of us, for example. In a setting where courtship is common-place, we can rely on things beyond socializing to meet a life partner. Piety at church. A good career. Being kind. Etc. We would be allowed to signal our worthiness in ways that compensate for the way we are. Contrast that to today when socializing is the primary means of signalling...or maybe not. It's what you make of it. The settings are different, but I don't think the real mechanisms have changed that much. We're just more open about it now.



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27 Jan 2009, 10:26 pm

Wombat wrote:
Do you want a life partner or not?

Why the hell would anyone want one of those? It's not like we haven't had parents to observe first hand what that's like - living. hell.


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28 Jan 2009, 8:26 am

"hello, i'm male and you're female, let's get married!"

years of depression later....

"as we never worked from the start, let's get a divorce."

would you prefer that, or would you rather date someone to get to know them first?

at school a guy would ask a girl if she wants to 'go out' with him, they'd then be boyfriend and girlfriend until they broke up for whatever reason. if i married my first girlfriend i'd probably be happy as i still have feelings for her but she might have felt differently, if i were to marry my first girlfriend since i turned sixteen however i would have probably killed myself by now.


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28 Jan 2009, 8:30 am

Wombat wrote:
Do you want a life partner or not?


I do.



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28 Jan 2009, 9:15 am

BellaDonna wrote:
Wombat wrote:
Do you want a life partner or not?


I do.


would you be happy with just a life partner or would it have to be someone you love? most people that are lonely would rather be with someone than be happy, then they know no better and stay unhappy as long as they have someone to be with.


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28 Jan 2009, 9:45 am

It could only be with some one that I loved. :)



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28 Jan 2009, 9:46 am

BellaDonna wrote:
It could only be with some one that I loved. :)


exactly ;)


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29 Jan 2009, 12:10 am

BellaDonna wrote:
It could only be with some one that I loved. :)


But does the other person in this hypothetical also love you?

I lived the one-sided marriage for seven years. She tried, she really did. But she didn't love me. Without real reciprocity, there were moments, but I might as well have been alone. I'm so elated to be out of it that I really haven't noticed that I am alone.



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29 Jan 2009, 9:01 am

I have no idea what the hell this post is about.



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29 Jan 2009, 9:10 am

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What is dating?


it is the process of producing dates.

certain varieties of palm tree are capable of dating.



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29 Jan 2009, 9:12 am

Apep wrote:
BellaDonna wrote:
It could only be with some one that I loved. :)


But does the other person in this hypothetical also love you?

I lived the one-sided marriage for seven years. She tried, she really did. But she didn't love me. Without real reciprocity, there were moments, but I might as well have been alone. I'm so elated to be out of it that I really haven't noticed that I am alone.


All my boyfriends have loved me. I didn't truly love them except for one.



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29 Jan 2009, 10:51 am

Indeed, Wombat! Respect self. If you can't be yourself with them, screw bothering with em. Dateing... It's got all this "ok dress this way. Do that." Why can't we do it a better way, and know someone on real personal levels. If they like casual, great. If they like soap operas, good for them. Being fake for the rest of your marrege= complete misery. (like my parents. sheesh. They so never belonged together to start with. yeah, being fake really worked for them... not)



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29 Jan 2009, 10:59 am

Wombat wrote:
What the hell does that mean? That you are on your best behavior and that you will have sex the first or second or third time you see someone?

Do you want a life partner or not?

If so RESPECT YOURSELF and demand a partner who has self respect.
Do you want to marry a slut? Then don't be a slut.


Having sex with some one on the second or third date does not make you a slut! :evil:



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29 Jan 2009, 11:01 am

BellaDonna wrote:
Wombat wrote:
What the hell does that mean? That you are on your best behavior and that you will have sex the first or second or third time you see someone?

Do you want a life partner or not?

If so RESPECT YOURSELF and demand a partner who has self respect.
Do you want to marry a slut? Then don't be a slut.


Having sex with some one on the second or third date does not make you a slut! :evil:


i class a slut as someone who doesn't bother with the dating part of it and just has sex as many times with as many different people as possible, i know someone will respond to this as 'you're a guy' but i don't see any problem with sex on a second or third date, there has to be a cut off point plus if you never make it past a certain number you're never going to experience it.


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