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Anarchy99
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10 Feb 2009, 10:05 am

I have this problem now meeting women, or even new people in general. I dont know whats wrong with me, and i had no clue until i stumbled upon this website, after reading forum post after forum post, i realized that i might be Autistic.

But i wasnt always this way. In high school, i had no problem meeting new people, or being social, im not trying to sound arrogant or anything, but i was pretty popular, i was dating one of the cutest chicks in the school, and overall my social skills were pretty much intact. Now i have to say that i think most of it was due to the fact that i was always stoned. I smoked alot of weed in high school, like everyday, all day. I remember how i used to be, carefree, easy to talk to, pretty chill. I had no problem going up to a random girl and asking her out, or getting her number. I would do and say alot of things that most of my friends would be to scared to do. It got me in trouble alot, but it made me alot of friends.

After high school, i kind of got into some trouble and helped a friend when i shouldnt have, and was given a choice, either one year in the county jail, or i could enlist in the military and have my record wiped. I chose the military..

Now heres where my dilemma starts, after joining the military, i couldnt smoke weed, or do drugs anymore, and because of this i believe i changed.


I wasnt as sociable as i was before, in fact i became quite anti-social, and i still am, i find it hard to talk to women, i cant just go up to random women like i used to and flirt. Whenever i see a women i think is attractive, i end up haveing an argument in my head on the reasons why it would be a bad idea to go up to this woman, and how i didnt want to be like every other jackass thats probably hit on her.

When i go to partys now, i end up outside or somewhere other then where the majority of the people are. I feel really uncomfortable in social situations, and i try to avoid them as best as i can.

After this last deployment to Iraq, i went home for a while, and i smoked again, and it was like WOW, ii went to partys and i was right there in the middle of everything, talking to all kinds of people i didnt know, i got so many phone numbers, and i made more then a few friends, and before i left to go back to my Base, all the people i met threw me a going away party, i was kind of shocked, when i asked them why they would bother, they said i was a cool person, and i was fun as hell to be with. Needless to say i had a blast.

But being back in the military away from weed, it seems i reverted back to my anti-social tendencies again.


So my question for you Aspies, is if i do indeed have Autism, and smoking weed helps me with it, should i find a way out of the military and try to self medicate myself?


And please before any anti-drug person posts something, please consider my question objectively, before saying weed is bad blah blah, your brain blah blah, illegal blah.

Thank you for reading this, any input or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated, you guys have a wonderful community here!



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10 Feb 2009, 10:06 am

I'm in the same boat. It was easy to meet people in high school, but after that, it suddenly became more difficult.



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10 Feb 2009, 10:42 am

Anarchy99 wrote:
I have this problem now meeting women, or even new people in general. I dont know whats wrong with me, and i had no clue until i stumbled upon this website, after reading forum post after forum post, i realized that i might be Autistic.

But i wasnt always this way. In high school, i had no problem meeting new people, or being social, im not trying to sound arrogant or anything, but i was pretty popular, i was dating one of the cutest chicks in the school, and overall my social skills were pretty much intact. Now i have to say that i think most of it was due to the fact that i was always stoned. I smoked alot of weed in high school, like everyday, all day. I remember how i used to be, carefree, easy to talk to, pretty chill. I had no problem going up to a random girl and asking her out, or getting her number. I would do and say alot of things that most of my friends would be to scared to do. It got me in trouble alot, but it made me alot of friends.

After high school, i kind of got into some trouble and helped a friend when i shouldnt have, and was given a choice, either one year in the county jail, or i could enlist in the military and have my record wiped. I chose the military..

Now heres where my dilemma starts, after joining the military, i couldnt smoke weed, or do drugs anymore, and because of this i believe i changed.


I wasnt as sociable as i was before, in fact i became quite anti-social, and i still am, i find it hard to talk to women, i cant just go up to random women like i used to and flirt. Whenever i see a women i think is attractive, i end up haveing an argument in my head on the reasons why it would be a bad idea to go up to this woman, and how i didnt want to be like every other jackass thats probably hit on her.

When i go to partys now, i end up outside or somewhere other then where the majority of the people are. I feel really uncomfortable in social situations, and i try to avoid them as best as i can.

After this last deployment to Iraq, i went home for a while, and i smoked again, and it was like WOW, ii went to partys and i was right there in the middle of everything, talking to all kinds of people i didnt know, i got so many phone numbers, and i made more then a few friends, and before i left to go back to my Base, all the people i met threw me a going away party, i was kind of shocked, when i asked them why they would bother, they said i was a cool person, and i was fun as hell to be with. Needless to say i had a blast.

But being back in the military away from weed, it seems i reverted back to my anti-social tendencies again.


So my question for you Aspies, is if i do indeed have Autism, and smoking weed helps me with it, should i find a way out of the military and try to self medicate myself?


And please before any anti-drug person posts something, please consider my question objectively, before saying weed is bad blah blah, your brain blah blah, illegal blah.

Thank you for reading this, any input or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated, you guys have a wonderful community here!


Firstly, may I say how incredibly stupid you are admitting to smoking weed whilst in the military and posting your photo online. If I were silly enough to smoke weed, I would not go broadcasting it for the world to see, particularly when doing so in the armed forces leaves you vulnerable to dismissal.

You seem to be the equivalent of a "dry alcoholic" and you would be well advised to seek treatment. You have been intoxicated so heavily over the years that withdrawal symptoms have lasted long beyond you stopping the weed. Intoxicants often have the effect of making people's personalities uninhibited, as seems to be the case with you. The fact that you are feeling much more inhibited as a result of not abusing substances does not make you an Aspie.

Talk to someone within the military whose confidentiality is assured to find out about treatment options and generally work out what your way forward is. I believe a chaplain would provide the absolute confidentiality you might wish to have. He or she might not be able to provide specific substance abuse advice, but he or she could hopefully sound out someone who will be able to advise you further in continued confidence.

I am not sure how much you know about the traits of autism spectrum conditions, but so far, you have supplied no evidence that you have it. Not having the confidence to approach women is not something that is unique to autism spectrum conditions. Maybe you are on the autistic spectrum, but you have supplied nothing in this post that suggests you are. Perhaps you should seek a diagnosis.



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10 Feb 2009, 10:59 am

As far as being stupid for admitting to my drug use while in the military, its not a stigma as it used to be, there is alot more people that do drugs in the military then i ever knew while in the civilian world, albeit their not open about it, but im not too worried about being "caught". I dont do drugs while im on "active" duty, but after spending a year of your life in Iraq, i had more then 60 days of leave, and i took just about all of them so i wouldnt have to worry about pissing in a cup.

As for me being autistic, the reason i posted here, was ive been reading these forums for just about a week now, this is the first time ive posted though. Ive looked back on some of my actions and my behavior over the past few years, and i do believe i am autistic, although like you said i would have to go to a professional to confim this.


Some of the reasons i think i might have AS is i seem to have a self destructive personality, im a deep narcissist, i cant seem to hold someones gaze for more then a second, and i find myself constantly doing repetitive things, and when i force myself to stop, it bothers and distracts me so much i cant help myself, I cannot have a normal relationship with anyone, because sooner or later i will do something to destroy it, and its wierd because i see myself doing these things, i know im hurting myself and the people i love, but i cant seem to stop. Its like being outside of your body and watching someone else controlling your body. Sometimes im the most apathetic person in the world, and sometimes i become overcome by such strong feelings that it kinda scares me sometimes.

Like i said, i dont know if i have AS, i cant go seek professional help as it might hinder my enlistment, so my only resort is to understand what i have, and try to cope with it and learn from it until i can leave the military.



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10 Feb 2009, 11:25 am

Anarchy99 wrote:
As far as being stupid for admitting to my drug use while in the military, its not a stigma as it used to be, there is alot more people that do drugs in the military then i ever knew while in the civilian world, albeit their not open about it, but im not too worried about being "caught". I dont do drugs while im on "active" duty, but after spending a year of your life in Iraq, i had more then 60 days of leave, and i took just about all of them so i wouldnt have to worry about pissing in a cup.

As for me being autistic, the reason i posted here, was ive been reading these forums for just about a week now, this is the first time ive posted though. Ive looked back on some of my actions and my behavior over the past few years, and i do believe i am autistic, although like you said i would have to go to a professional to confim this.


Some of the reasons i think i might have AS is i seem to have a self destructive personality, im a deep narcissist, i cant seem to hold someones gaze for more then a second, and i find myself constantly doing repetitive things, and when i force myself to stop, it bothers and distracts me so much i cant help myself, I cannot have a normal relationship with anyone, because sooner or later i will do something to destroy it, and its wierd because i see myself doing these things, i know im hurting myself and the people i love, but i cant seem to stop. Its like being outside of your body and watching someone else controlling your body. Sometimes im the most apathetic person in the world, and sometimes i become overcome by such strong feelings that it kinda scares me sometimes.

Like i said, i dont know if i have AS, i cant go seek professional help as it might hinder my enlistment, so my only resort is to understand what i have, and try to cope with it and learn from it until i can leave the military.


Hmmm, at least you had the good sense to think about the possibility that you might be "pissing in a cup" when you return to duty. How long do you have to have clear of drug-taking before it won't show up in a sample? One thing I would advise you to be careful of is that it is sometimes difficult to stop taking the drugs when the 30-day (or however long it is) window approaches. Also, the world is very small and it may be that an online admission of taking banned substances will be sufficient to get you dishonourably discharged.

I would suggest seeking advice about Asperger's syndrome under the civilian health care system and making sure the results of the diagnosis are kept confidential. From what I have heard from Roger N. Meyer (whose website you should be able to find quickly), whilst a diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome is sufficient to discharge someone straight away in the US armed forces, if the person is good in their specialism, people might be inclined to pull strings and keep the person. Alternatively, it may be a quick way of exiting the forces honourably.

The way you describe the repetitive thing sounds more like OCD than an autism spectrum condition. Being a narcissist doesn't amount to being an aspie either. It is harder for people on the autistic spectrum to sustain relationships, but there are many neurotypical men who are rubbish at maintaining relationships too. The eye contact part sounds a bit more plausible though.



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10 Feb 2009, 2:05 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I'm in the same boat. It was easy to meet people in high school, but after that, it suddenly became more difficult.


Wow that must mean im realy in it bad b/c im just a Junior and its hitting me hard... :(


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11 Feb 2009, 8:36 am

dude youve heard this probably a thousand times, i know i have, but dont worry man, enjoy high school YES I SAID ENJOY, theres a million things i wish i would have done different in high school that i cant take back now or ever.



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12 Feb 2009, 7:06 am

Relicanth7 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I'm in the same boat. It was easy to meet people in high school, but after that, it suddenly became more difficult.


Wow that must mean im realy in it bad b/c im just a Junior and its hitting me hard... :(

Don't do drugs. Get good at what you do and pay back with being successfull.


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12 Feb 2009, 7:25 am

I have used drugs pretty full on, on and off for 8 years and I havnt hit it hard. I have but I have learnt to adapt and not to take overdoses and yes it has affected my relationships.