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12 Feb 2009, 9:59 pm

What measures should be taken to ensure that you can make a reasonable case for you/your actions not being seen as creepy?

I always took the measures of a) never initiating a discussion on sex or attraction with the opposite sex, and b) no longer initiating conversation with a girl if she seemed uncomfortable with me (partly as a test to see if she would initiate conversation instead). But I do know a few women who claimed that they could tell if a guy was creepy just as a sort of gut feeling, which makes me uncomfortable. It suggests to me that they're looking for more subtle things which don't even consciously register.



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12 Feb 2009, 11:07 pm

Guys that only talk to the people they came with and pretty girls are creepy. Talk to guys and girls, maybe some girls you don't fancy either though that might be akward.

The point is you want it to seem like you are talking to a random cross section of people, "socialising" rather than targetting only pretty girls to speak to. Also it is good to remember that while not everybody is a hot girl most people will know at least 1 hot girl so it pays to know lots of people who know hot girls.



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12 Feb 2009, 11:12 pm

I'll admit that if I see a girl who looks attractive I'd feel more inclined to initiate a conversation with her than anyone else in the room, but most of the new people I meet aren't attractive girls.



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13 Feb 2009, 1:25 am

I'm not sure if it can be helped. I'm not exactly sure what people mean by creepy but I get a feeling that many would consider me to be. I think creepy either has something to do with posture, demeanor, body language, or always being alone.

It used to help for me to get drunk but that doesn't work for me very well anymore.


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13 Feb 2009, 1:43 am

Hector wrote:
What measures should be taken to ensure that you can make a reasonable case for you/your actions not being seen as creepy?


I don't know. I get this a lot, though, most often from younger people. I guess I'm an acquired taste, suitable for mature people only!

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But I do know a few women who claimed that they could tell if a guy was creepy just as a sort of gut feeling, which makes me uncomfortable.


But the initial gut feeling is based on the same framework of perception as the final judgment, so of course it's always going to be correct, by definition. If a barn is perceived as brown by a partially color-blind person now, it will also appear brown later even if it's really green.


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13 Feb 2009, 3:57 am

Acerimmer1 wrote:
Guys that only talk to the people they came with and pretty girls are creepy. Talk to guys and girls, maybe some girls you don't fancy either though that might be akward.

The point is you want it to seem like you are talking to a random cross section of people, "socialising" rather than targetting only pretty girls to speak to. Also it is good to remember that while not everybody is a hot girl most people will know at least 1 hot girl so it pays to know lots of people who know hot girls.

Its why even the most elementary dating book tells you to befriend the targets friends first, before moving onto the target.



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13 Feb 2009, 4:25 am

some simple macro VBA excel code:

'//when a guy flirts a girl, the girl would value the guy according to the following function

'this also can be done by a simple excel formula


Function Creepiness(Guy String) As String

If Guy = "unattractive" Then
Creepiness= "Creepy"


ElseIf Guy = "moderately attractive" Then
Creepiness= "Not creepy,Straightforward"

ElseIf Guy = "Hot" Then
Creepiness= "Not creepy,Very Confident"

Else: Creepiness =" "

End If

End Function



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13 Feb 2009, 4:27 am

Creepy men have an evil laugh and evil look in thier eyes.



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13 Feb 2009, 5:11 am

^ MUHAHAHAHA :twisted:



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13 Feb 2009, 7:13 am

sgrannel wrote:
Hector wrote:
But I do know a few women who claimed that they could tell if a guy was creepy just as a sort of gut feeling, which makes me uncomfortable.


But the initial gut feeling is based on the same framework of perception as the final judgment, so of course it's always going to be correct, by definition. If a barn is perceived as brown by a partially color-blind person now, it will also appear brown later even if it's really green.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. So even if someone's "gut feeling" is misguided, they'd still stand by it no matter what? Regardless of that, I want to know if there's anything in particular that motivates that "gut feeling" in the first place or how prevalent it really is.



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13 Feb 2009, 7:33 am

Moving slowly like a creepy cruel spider, like slowly touching a girls ass. If you don't know each other that well and/or just flirting Don't act nerded out about it just slap it.

What exactly I mean is if a guy is insecure it usually shows and it's creepy.



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13 Feb 2009, 7:47 am

I wouldn't dare slap a girl's ass anyway, never mind nervously touch it. Besides my dislike of degrading behaviour, also see my "Touching" thread.

I might come across as insecure to women but I'm not sure if I do, or to what extent.



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13 Feb 2009, 7:50 am

Hector wrote:
I wouldn't dare slap a girl's ass anyway, never mind nervously touch it. Besides my dislike of degrading behaviour, also see my "Touching" thread.

I might come across as insecure to women but I'm not sure if I do, or to what extent.


You seem sure of yourself. That confidence is important and that's all you can be is yourself. :)



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13 Feb 2009, 7:57 am

Of course I like to think of myself as attractive and confident, but I can really only go by successes, of which there are none so I have to ask myself why that is. This "creepiness" x-factor is one possibility I am considering.



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13 Feb 2009, 9:52 am

BellaDonna wrote:
Moving slowly like a creepy cruel spider, like slowly touching a girls ass. If you don't know each other that well and/or just flirting Don't act nerded out about it just slap it.

What exactly I mean is if a guy is insecure it usually shows and it's creepy.


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13 Feb 2009, 10:38 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
Function Creepiness(Guy String) As String

If Guy = "unattractive" Then
Creepiness= "Creepy"


ElseIf Guy = "moderately attractive" Then
Creepiness= "Not creepy,Straightforward"

ElseIf Guy = "Hot" Then
Creepiness= "Not creepy,Very Confident"

Else: Creepiness =" "

End If

End Function

It's about time someone should hack the subroutine :P


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