Either he's lying or I blew it

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There is this girl that I have liked for a year and a half now and I haven't asked her out recently or anything and I rarely talk to her but she does look into my eyes a lot and the last time I talked to her over a month ago went rather well. And then her ex who is one of my ex's best friends telling me that she thought I was creepy this whole time when it was her who initiated the conversation with me the very first time ever, and she pushed him aside to hug me before him one time in December.

I know it's little stuff but I am absolutely crazy about her and it really really really wrecked me inside to know that she thinks I'm creepy. I don't know what to do, because she is the only prospect I have and I was about to cry all day as soon as her ex told me that because I really don't want to lose her. I think he was mad because I was mad from seeing her come up and hug him and talk to him at lunch today.

Still gonna send her a PS3 friend request on the weekend, though. I wish I could talk to her about this but she always sidesteps these serious relationship questions and pretends I never asked.

I think I just needed to vent this cause it's tearing me apart

You seem to have read her body language pretty well, and her ex - note, her EX, why would he want to help either of you out? - is telling you this.

I'd take her word over his, man.

Talk to her not about this but just talk and you'll find out how she feels. If it doesn't work don't get all upset and give up I've found that women don't run out they just get low in numbers for awhile then you meet a bunch more. The trick I've found that has gotten me further is talk to all of them and be nice while being considerate of their feelings. Don't go talk to only girls you want to date and don't assume that if a girl talks to you she likes you that way it's too easy to do that instead be friends and get to kn them all then pick the ones you want.

That's kind of what I needed to hear. I think he's gonna bring it up again tomorrow in class though in front of me and his mutual friends and even if it isn't true, I really don't want to hear him say that stuff again.

I've talked to her before and it used to get awkward and silent and then it would just die and I would walk angrily back to my seat but this last time, she kept saving the conversation and keeping it going instead of me doing it and it went really well. The thing is, I fear SOOOOOO much that she's just gonna go back to the other way if I talk to her again and it hurts so much when she does that that it's too scary for me to chance it.

That was probably at least two weeks ago though that I last talked to her it's rather rarely that it happens.

And yeah, having lots of girls that are friends is probably the way you're supposed to do it. I've invested all my time, effort, and yes even some money in this one girl alone.

I talk to my friends everyday and a girlfriend is supposed to be closer than your best friend so you have to talk to her. I'm scared about talking to every girl I meet and I've only gotten better by messing up over and over and learning from my mistakes. Just be nice and don't be angry if a girl doesn't like you it'll only back fire.

I've been told I was creepy before. I think part of it comes from thinking too much when you're around her(difficult to explain this). Staring is bad.
But I don't understand the how the creepy effect is created enough to give advice.

Given how little you talk to her, I think anything more than a passing interest is going to get labeled as 'creepy'. Seriously, if you like a girl, talk to her. Focus on the conversation, or finding mutual interests.

If you don't talk, it can't go anywhere. If you don't talk but once every few weeks, you are going to get called a creep if you express any deep emotion. That's something I had to learn the hard way. I hope you can pick up on it sooner than I did.

Even if you fumble attempts to talk, the shy clumsy nature coming out to talk to HER, but not anyone else, it'll be obvious enough that you like her, and she may very well go for it. If you don't talk, nothing good will come of your attempts.

Seriously though, if she notices you're constantly trying to come up with conversation, blushing when she compliments, she'll pick up on it rather quickly. Women aren't as blind as you think. ; )

She definitely already knows that I like her. I used to talk with her a lot last year and then eventually the teacher switched everyone's seat and I didn't sit right in front of her anymore and it became much harder to talk to her and I knew that would happen which greatly shook my confidence with her. I still talked to her though sometimes.

And then I didn't do anything with her over the summer and she only has one class with me this year and she sits on the other side of the room. It got way harder and more awkward to talk to her. It still seems like she's kind of interested right now though, we still look each other in the eye almost every time we see each other. At the same time, I've seen her being affectionate with her BF though so I don't know. Either way I can't really live without her.

Trust me, you can, and we know how you feel. Nearly everyone here has been through the same emotional roller-coaster.

Last year, if you were really interested in her, and talked regularly, you would have gotten some outside contact information. If you aren't talking outside of school, then it really isn't even friendship, let alone romance.

In all honesty, I think you're stuck up on denial, making this all the worse. I think it's time you moved on, and realized she probably doesn't like you, and chances are she was dragging you on. Her friends are probably making jokes about it if you've been awkward about things. Don't get overly upset about it, just take it as a lesson for the future. Things do get better if you let them.

Your first few attempts are probably going to get shot down. You just have to learn to take it in stride. It's difficult, but you learn. If you get your life in order, you may very well end up with the romance you desire, but it's probably not going to be with her.

Yeah, I did get her number and her e-mail

It may be possible that I'm in denial but that's what keeps me going, I have no other prospects at all and I'll be really surprised if I ever find anyone as perfect for me as she was, there's just no one like her. I just can't imagine it and it scares me more than anything because I know she was interested at one time and I may have blown my chance for the perfect girl.

When he told me she was creeped out by me, I didn't want to do anything anymore until I convinced myself it was a lie. If I don't think I have at least some chance with her, I can't function at all. It hurts too much.

I wish it was different but I don't exactly get approached by girls(she approached me) and I have a REALLY hard time approaching them so this feels like the best chance ever for me and I would hate myself if I confirmed that I blew it.

She hugged you and initiated...and hugged you who she didn't talk to much over her ex who from your description seems to at least be on OK terms with her.

If those aren't signals that she is at least mildly attracted to you, than I don't know what is.

Given what you have said, if it is all true and not a bias perpetrated by your brain, than develop it, and try to form a relationship.

Develop what you have and then ask her to do something...make it seem casual enough, but choose an activity that either only involves the two of you, or is typical of dates.

Seconded.

I sent the friend request and her brother answered it but he was being a prick about how it was HIS PS3 NOT hers and just generally being a little douche for no reason at all and then he deleted me.

Dammit, I was really looking forward to having this PS3 work. Not only did that go wrong but now I'm on bad terms with her brother. I guess it gives me something to talk to her about but now I'm gonna be bothered about that all week off.

dude its just a girl, there are billions of them on this planet. but hey, if you are really serious about her, no harm in trying!

Yeah, but there will never be another like her

I completely understand your passion for this girl. I would have been the very same at your age. For me the 'plenty more fish in the sea' just didnt seem to cure my feelings for that someone special.

I would say you should make your feelings known to her, directly to her, not through friends etc. If you could pluck up the courage to ask her out for ice cream, lunch, the cinema or whatever you guys do, that in itself says everything without you having to blurt out your feelings.

I think no good having a casual 'chat' now and then, she wont understand that this means you like her.

You clearly would be very hurt if she refused and wanted to remain just friends, but it looks like you to need to hear that from her if that is the case, so that you could move on.

Either way, she might be delighted to go out with you, or she will let you know once and for all what her feelings are for you.

You can then walk away with pride and keep your head high, without having people talk about you behind your back.

Girls like guys with confidence, if you dont feel you have much confidence, fake it. Most guys do!!

Good luck.