aleclair wrote:
Replace 'geek' with 'nerd' and bingo, you have described the state of the world. I see the tag 'geek' as still having the dorky qualities and 'nerd' as the all-grown-up version of the geek, with social skills to match.
We have to establish an agreement on semantics between "nerd", "geek", and "dork"...
Personally, I've called myself a nerd for years, and see it as a much less negative connotation than the other two words (probably due to the movie "Revenge of the Nerds")... it
can be used as a playful jab, but not much of an insult...
Geek, as I've said here and elsewhere, reminds me of the green slime used on Nickelodeon game shows in the 1990s... but for all intents and purposes could be used interchangeably with nerd...
Dork is the one that I usually see as an outright insult...
I'm just laying down what I've experienced, perhaps you guys have different definitions thereof...
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That being said, the above poster is dead-on in that the qualities that make you attractive are probabilistically independent of your status as a geek, or as a nerd, or as whatever your semantics prefer. Granted, though, as geek and nerd culture become more and more acceptable in the upper echelons of the mainstream, more and more nerdy people are able to 'pass for normal'. That's gotta help as well.
You can thank the Information Technology industry for that... as people become more and more dependent on technology, they also become more and more dependent on the IT guys to maintain it... Our world domination scheme is working quite admirably...
sunshower wrote:
ToS, I highly doubt you are "unlovable" as you say. You are certainly likeable, and no likeable person is unlovable.
I merely base my argument off of past observed interactions... the only time women indicates any romantic "interest" in me is when she needs me to do something for her... using sex to manipulate is an age-old weapon in the female arsenal...
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It is possible you are misconstruing peoples initial attraction to physical appearance (although I have no idea what you actually look like, so who knows).
Oh I highly doubt that... one word: fatass...
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Physical appearance is surface only, but what's under the surface is the most important and hardest to change - and from the posts I've read I can't see anything unloveable, or even unlikeable in your "under the surface".
Referring back to my observations, so far, all women have not loved me... I'm going to introduce a corollary to the Fermi Paradox: If there are women out there that love me, why are they not obvious?
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Know that everything I say is solid truth - and STOP CALLING YOURSELF UNLOVEABLE, BECAUSE WE ALL LIKE YOU AND CAN SEE YOU ARE NOT.
You're just making assumptions about me (understandable, since you don't actually know me in real life and you don't know what hells I've had to endure in the love arena), whereas I'm basing my arguments on logical extrapolation of events that have occurred...
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Sorry for the caps, flame at will!
I don't flame people unless they make personal attacks instead of debating the topic at hand...