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MoonMetropolis
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15 Aug 2011, 2:56 am

I love how the media sensationalizes bullying and acts like it's some new
teen trend. Bullying has always been around and it always will be around.
Teenagers are cruel, petty, ignorant pieces of s**t. In fact, many adults are too.
This generation is absolutely vile and disgusting. But perhaps we should
focus less on this "cyberbullying" nonsense and focus more on people who
are ACTUALLY being beaten bloody and abused by REAL bullies, not just
stupid online gossiping and name-calling. Just a thought.

I mean, really. If you are going to kill yourself because someone said a
few mean things about you online, then clearly something was wrong with you
to begin with and you obviously were completely sheltered and unprepared
for life in the real world. That's really the epitome of over-sensitive.
How could anyone possibly handle reality when they can't even handle some
mean people online?

This is going to sound awful, but bullying actually helps some people in a
way. Those of us who are tough enough to take it without committing suicide
often end up stronger for it. Sometimes, we develop paranoid social
disorders, but who's to say I wouldn't be this way anyway?

Plus, most bullies grow up to be failures, and we survivors look forward to
the day when we see our former enemies on the street begging for change.
And, when they stop us and ask for help, we'll just stand there laughing at
them as they pick up the handful of pennies we threw at their feet. It is
always truly delightful to watch your enemies crumble.

My point? The media will exploit anything to make a quick buck. The media
is the ultimate bully.


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15 Aug 2011, 8:42 am

yeah, me concur. the daily mail aka daily heil/daily hatemail/daily bile et al is a classic example of this

one day their story DEMANDS motorists NOT to stop to stop and offer assistance to broken down road users as they will either be scammers or whatever, then the next day, they berate their readers because only 39% of them would stop to help someone who has broken down, which of course their regular readers just lap up - completely oblivious of the previous days story....


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15 Aug 2011, 8:58 am

I am tired of this ignorance. You call us "sheltered" and insulting s**t like this. That makes me really mad, because last time I checked, nobody wanted to be constantly be shot down, and for being shot down, get shot over again. What the hell? Yeah turn right around and tell us not to hate each ourselves, right ontop of that, just because you can't see the injuries.

Oh, and about the media. Most awareness adds are weak examples for just about any form of violence so they are to be "acceptable" for viewing.



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15 Aug 2011, 10:47 am

Let me get this straight: you think bullying online is OK because the ones who are doing it were bullied themseelves and survived? So, basically, two wrongs make a right?

And you think the people who are susceptible to bullyilng online werre sheltered and then you say that if they were affected then something was wrong with them in the first place. How do you think, if there is something biologically wrong, the trait is triggered in the first place?

It's my theory, that in a society where people blame victims and are taught not to be victims, people start identifying with bullies and emulating them. Instead of saying that bullying builds character and letting the problem go, how about teaching people civility? It would save the world a lot of destructive behavior.



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15 Aug 2011, 5:19 pm

Lucywlf wrote:
Let me get this straight: you think bullying online is OK because the ones who are doing it were bullied themseelves and survived? So, basically, two wrongs make a right?

Hmmm... did I ever say anything like that?

No, I don't believe I did.


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16 Aug 2011, 2:39 pm

MoonMetropolis wrote:
I love how the media sensationalizes bullying and acts like it's some new
teen trend. Bullying has always been around and it always will be around.
Teenagers are cruel, petty, ignorant pieces of sh**. In fact, many adults are too.
This generation is absolutely vile and disgusting. But perhaps we should
focus less on this "cyberbullying" nonsense and focus more on people who
are ACTUALLY being beaten bloody and abused by REAL bullies, not just
stupid online gossiping and name-calling. Just a thought.

I mean, really. If you are going to kill yourself because someone said a
few mean things about you online, then clearly something was wrong with you
to begin with and you obviously were completely sheltered and unprepared
for life in the real world. That's really the epitome of over-sensitive.
How could anyone possibly handle reality when they can't even handle some
mean people online?

This is going to sound awful, but bullying actually helps some people in a
way. Those of us who are tough enough to take it without committing suicide
often end up stronger for it. Sometimes, we develop paranoid social
disorders, but who's to say I wouldn't be this way anyway?

Plus, most bullies grow up to be failures, and we survivors look forward to
the day when we see our former enemies on the street begging for change.
And, when they stop us and ask for help, we'll just stand there laughing at
them as they pick up the handful of pennies we threw at their feet. It is
always truly delightful to watch your enemies crumble.

My point? The media will exploit anything to make a quick buck. The media
is the ultimate bully.


I do not see how bullying helps anyone.......it certainly did not help me just lowered my non-existant self confidence even more, made me afraid to express myself, did not help with my depression ect. I did attempt suicide it was not just over bullying but yes that was probably a factor.

Though I have to say if I ran into a bully from the past who was homeless and begging for change I would probably give them change and a ciggerette and wish them luck.

Also I do agree with you about cyber bullying to an extent, its not really that big of a deal if someone you are never going to meet tries talking crap over the internet and that alone is probably not going to cause someone to kill themself they would probably already have to have issues to react in such an extreme manner........if they follow you to your inbox or email then yes they are taking it too far but you can block them if they go to the trouble of looking you up on other websites to pick on you then the proper action such as blocking them and reporting them. Also sometimes cyber bullying is not just cyber bullying like when someones classmates who bully them at school also start drama about them on places like facebook.

I am not a fan of bullying as I do not see what purpose it could posibly serve......I am fine with giving people crap in good fun and giving them constructive criticizem but trying to make someone feel like crap for no real reason other than 'you don't like them' is messed up.



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16 Aug 2011, 3:14 pm

Bullying doesn't just occur with teens & adults, children can also be notoriously meanspirited. I really have no memories where I wasn't bullied by someone. It's happened to me since I was a toddler (punched in the nose by one of mom's friend's son). He didn't just do it once, either. He did it every chance he got, & his mom egged him on (think of that an older boy, punching a little girl in the face & it was ok for him to do it). Why? IDK, but I must have had the perfect face to bloody. Then there was school, starting when I was in kindergarten. After that, the bullies were basically like a revolving door. Sometimes it'd be a single individual, but often it was a group of 3, 4, or more. Yeah, it was always my fault. That's what I always heard. Even at 49, I still hear I am causing the bullying. Nice to know that the bully never has the problem, only the bullied.

I had little self-esteem from the abuse at home. Kids knew it, adults have also figured it out. Lack of self-esteem is my fault too. So here I sit at home without a job, but at least I have peace & there's not a single bully in sight. I have survived, reluctantly. Sometimes I feel like one of those punching bag clowns that were all the rage when I was a kid. I got beat down, only to get up, & get hit again. One more thing...my bullies have been male & female. It's left me pretty angry about the whole situation. Not one outsider/witness stopped the bullies, I did. Typically I had to resort to violence to get them to cease. It should have never come to that. Now I have to quit jobs to stay safe & sane. :-( Sadly, I don't know if things will ever improve (either for myself or others).

One more thing...it doesn't matter where the bully is (known/anonymous) or what form it takes (online/home/school/neighborhood). It is a form of terrorism. It's just that it's a very personalized form of torment. it needs to be stopped. Nor should it be tolerated as a right of passage.


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17 Aug 2011, 10:40 am

MoonMetropolis wrote:
I mean, really. If you are going to kill yourself because someone said a
few mean things about you online, then clearly something was wrong with you
to begin with and you obviously were completely sheltered and unprepared
for life in the real world. .


That is an incredibly mean thing to say about cyberbullying victims. It's also about as true as comparing rape to an unwanted kiss. "A few mean things" is not what triggers the suicide.



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17 Aug 2011, 3:40 pm

MoonMetropolis wrote:
I love how the media sensationalizes bullying and acts like it's some new
teen trend. Bullying has always been around and it always will be around.
Teenagers are cruel, petty, ignorant pieces of sh**. In fact, many adults are too.
This generation is absolutely vile and disgusting. But perhaps we should
focus less on this "cyberbullying" nonsense and focus more on people who
are ACTUALLY being beaten bloody and abused by REAL bullies, not just
stupid online gossiping and name-calling. Just a thought.


Agreed, but I wouldn't say focus less on cyber bullying--just issues need to be look at more in general.

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I mean, really. If you are going to kill yourself because someone said a
few mean things about you online, then clearly something was wrong with you
to begin with and you obviously were completely sheltered and unprepared
for life in the real world. That's really the epitome of over-sensitive.
How could anyone possibly handle reality when they can't even handle some
mean people online?


Everyone has a weakness and buttons that can be pushed. I'm going to say its a lot easier to be more tolerant and durable online than in real life when an insult is followed through with a good slugging to the face. But everyone has different tolerance levels, only a jackass would try and break them. I will say this tho.. methods for dealing with cyber bullying need to be addressed, such as ignoring a person.

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This is going to sound awful, but bullying actually helps some people in a
way. Those of us who are tough enough to take it without committing suicide
often end up stronger for it. Sometimes, we develop paranoid social
disorders, but who's to say I wouldn't be this way anyway?


A lot of things can build character. I doubt you'd be that way anyway without outside interference to be honest tho, there are mental scars as well as physical. It always lingers with me, a bad moment where I was harassed, some person talking about my body language or any other million things. I'm not saying I should be that way either--what people really think does not matter. But the scars are so imbedded, I shiver thinking about it, its psychological not rational. Its like touching a sore and getting the shock and sensation that tells your body its in pain. Mentally you know the sore isn't a big deal and that it'll go away on its own, yet your body still tells you its hurting.

Mentally I know what people say isn't a big deal either, but the fight or flight response from so many prior situations still kicks in whenever i'm teased or harrassed.


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Plus, most bullies grow up to be failures, and we survivors look forward to
the day when we see our former enemies on the street begging for change.
And, when they stop us and ask for help, we'll just stand there laughing at
them as they pick up the handful of pennies we threw at their feet. It is
always truly delightful to watch your enemies crumble.


I disagree, I think the less intelligent bullies or one with unsustainable mental disorders that make them bullies in the first place aren't successful. There are many people with things like AS for instance that are in that same predicament. Whereas the clever bully is a predator and gets almost an emotional high whenever they're successful getting a jab in on someone. I'm not saying their lives are good-- infact I SERIOUSLY doubt it, but that doesn't mean my life was made better by them either. We're so desensitized too, we talk about things casually and people play them off so well sometimes we rarely realize what we're saying is offensive and hurtful.

When I was younger, I talked about my aunt being overweight--why? Because even as a 6 year old the brainwashing was so complete the obese people do that to themselves and that they deserve what they get. Then you get even a little more mature and realize that there are a myriad of reasons for a person to be overweight.

Society in general imo has always been like this, but like with the advancement of technology comes the "greater good" greater evil also follows. Stereotypes are so easily known on a global level that it is hard for almost anyone to not be effected.


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My point? The media will exploit anything to make a quick buck. The media
is the ultimate bully.


Agreed



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18 Aug 2011, 1:16 am

Yes I think bullying did make me tougher and a different person. It made me change and act more normal and work on my behavior and start caring about other people and listening to them because I was so sick of all these labels I had and I wanted friends.

But I wouldn't advocate bullying or encourage it. I am happy schools have tried doing something about it and states passing laws about it.



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22 Aug 2011, 11:03 am

I'm pretty cool with bullying, mostly because I do it. The 'victims' I see all deserve it so no harm done in my eyes.



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22 Aug 2011, 12:02 pm

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I'm pretty cool with bullying, mostly because I do it. The 'victims' I see all deserve it so no harm done in my eyes.


I'll bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you were bullied. "No harm done?" Seriously? Have you ever asked the person you bullied just how they were affected by your mistreatment of them? I'll bet they wouldn't say "no harm done."


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22 Aug 2011, 2:28 pm

Actually I would, I just said that 9 times out of 10 they deserved it. I mean I'd like it if someone called me out on my faults. No, I never asked them because I knew they'd just complain about how I'm wrong.



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22 Aug 2011, 2:31 pm

AmyF wrote:
Actually I would, I just said that 9 times out of 10 they deserved it. I mean I'd like it if someone called me out on my faults. No, I never asked them because I knew they'd just complain about how I'm wrong.


That's because you are wrong! Bullying leaves lasting psychological damage to the bullied. It can even last a lifetime. Must be nice not to feel any remorse for damaging another human being. Shame on you! I hope someday you can realize how hurtful bullying is....even words hurt, far more than you'd like to believe.


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22 Aug 2011, 2:38 pm

How would you know if I'm wrong? You've never met me or the people I've insulted. They were already screwed up, I didn't make them worthless. All I do is call them out on their s**t.

It seems that everything hurts for autistics.



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22 Aug 2011, 2:43 pm

AmyF wrote:
How would you know if I'm wrong? You've never met me or the people I've insulted. They were already screwed up, I didn't make them worthless. All I do is call them out on their s**t.

It seems that everything hurts for autistics.


So making them feel worse is ok? It's a good thing I haven't seen you in action, or I'd give you payback for hurtimg someone else. I know plenty of hurtful scathing words to use against you. Why do you feel entitled to cause someone else pain? Of course it's wrong. I have had to deal with a child who was being bullied. It was probably someone just like you! You are a sick sick person to purposely hurt another! How would you like it if you were called names & hurt by someone else. I doubt you'd feel good about yourself. Do yourself & everyone else here a favor & get some help. Get lost until you do!


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