Is excessive anger and frustration an Aspie trait?

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23 Oct 2010, 10:19 pm

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Far away in the clouds I unofficially pronounce that your short tempered problem is a well known phenomenon in a NT's - life.


So I'm NT and all NTs (ie. most of the worlds population) are easily frustrated and angered - is that what you are saying?

If so - the people around me that DON'T lose there cool when I have lost mine - they are what? Presumably something other than NT!!


That's a huge leap from what he said, he just said that NTs can be short-tempered too, not that all NTs are. Many NTs have anger management issues.

I think maybe autistic people might seem to get more easily frustrated and upset when actually they are just dealing with more - like with sensory issues and executive dysfunction. If you experience higher stress levels all the time than most people, then you will probably be more likely to get upset over what appear to be little things. Do you have SPD and all that?



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23 Oct 2010, 11:24 pm

I don't know. I'm pretty "neurotic" myself. I think I'm just more anxious, sensitive, and bothered by things than other people.



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24 Oct 2010, 10:23 am

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I think that having asperger's is anger inducing, rather than anger being a part of the asperger's package. Comorbid is the word.


Yes - that makes sense. Difficulty with communication and social skills = frustration. Increased, unresolved frustration = anger.


Or increased, unresolved frustration = sadness.

This helps me to understand angry people a bit better, though. Thank you.


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24 Oct 2010, 10:51 am

PangeLingua wrote:
Sowlowsolo wrote:
C1000 wrote:
Far away in the clouds I unofficially pronounce that your short tempered problem is a well known phenomenon in a NT's - life.


So I'm NT and all NTs (ie. most of the worlds population) are easily frustrated and angered - is that what you are saying?

If so - the people around me that DON'T lose there cool when I have lost mine - they are what? Presumably something other than NT!!


That's a huge leap from what he said, he just said that NTs can be short-tempered too, not that all NTs are. Many NTs have anger management issues.

I think maybe autistic people might seem to get more easily frustrated and upset when actually they are just dealing with more - like with sensory issues and executive dysfunction. If you experience higher stress levels all the time than most people, then you will probably be more likely to get upset over what appear to be little things. Do you have SPD and all that?


I did not (maybe still do not) recognise that I made a huge leap in understanding/misunderstanding what C1000 wrote. Maybe this is why I run into difficulties all the time - I simply don't understand and am not understood!

Did I over react? Maybe C1000 can help clear this up. What do others think? What do you (anyone who wishes to comment) read into it?

In answer to your question about SPD - I am not diagnosed with anything - I just know that all is not well with me and has been that way for most of/all of my life. I find it too difficult to face a doctor or anyone and proclaim my problems unless it is a physical one!



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24 Oct 2010, 10:57 am

marshall wrote:
I don't know. I'm pretty "neurotic" myself. I think I'm just more anxious, sensitive, and bothered by things than other people.


It's not much fun is it?!



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24 Oct 2010, 10:43 pm

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I did not (maybe still do not) recognise that I made a huge leap in understanding/misunderstanding what C1000 wrote. Maybe this is why I run into difficulties all the time - I simply don't understand and am not understood!

Did I over react? Maybe C1000 can help clear this up. What do others think? What do you (anyone who wishes to comment) read into it?

In answer to your question about SPD - I am not diagnosed with anything - I just know that all is not well with me and has been that way for most of/all of my life. I find it too difficult to face a doctor or anyone and proclaim my problems unless it is a physical one!


Do you have undiagnosed sensory issues, like do you have trouble wearing certain kinds of cloth, are you extremely sensitive to sounds, lights, that sort of thing to the point where they are uncomfortable, overwhelming or painful?

As for the leap in understanding - he said that NTs can have a short temper or anger management problems. You assumed that this meant that he was saying that all NTs have a short temper and anyone who doesn't is not NT. That does not follow logically. But if you don't see the gap in logic, I don't know how to explain it to you. No offense.



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25 Oct 2010, 12:13 am

I think it is an Aspie trait, but I'm uncertain if the cause is the same for everyone.

I'm very easy going, and big things hardly phase me, but I lose it all the time over little things. Years ago I rationalized that part of my problem was this compulsive need to be in control of EVERYTHING. Big things don't phase me because I understand (now) that I have little control over big things, but when little things (like misplacing keys) happens, I go off the deep end too easily.



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25 Oct 2010, 11:39 am

I believe that excessive anger and frustration in Aspies is justified. We should NEVER have to apologise to anyone for the way we are feeling. I will be as f*****g angry as I f*****g want to be, and anybody to tell me to calm down better f*****g run as fast as they f*****g can.



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25 Oct 2010, 2:15 pm

PangeLingua wrote:
Sowlowsolo wrote:
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I did not (maybe still do not) recognise that I made a huge leap in understanding/misunderstanding what C1000 wrote. Maybe this is why I run into difficulties all the time - I simply don't understand and am not understood!

Did I over react? Maybe C1000 can help clear this up. What do others think? What do you (anyone who wishes to comment) read into it?

In answer to your question about SPD - I am not diagnosed with anything - I just know that all is not well with me and has been that way for most of/all of my life. I find it too difficult to face a doctor or anyone and proclaim my problems unless it is a physical one!


Do you have undiagnosed sensory issues, like do you have trouble wearing certain kinds of cloth, are you extremely sensitive to sounds, lights, that sort of thing to the point where they are uncomfortable, overwhelming or painful?

As for the leap in understanding - he said that NTs can have a short temper or anger management problems. You assumed that this meant that he was saying that all NTs have a short temper and anyone who doesn't is not NT. That does not follow logically. But if you don't see the gap in logic, I don't know how to explain it to you. No offense.


I do seem to have these problems to a degree - don't think I've ever found them 'painful' but they can be uncomfortable/overwhelming. I don't like bright light very much. At home in the evening I use very soft lighting - others complain it is too dark. As a child I always comlained that bath water was too hot. Clothes have to be comfortable or I become irritable (remember complaining a lot about clothing discomfort as a child). If a noisy motorbike goes past my workroom I visibly cringe. The worst is a number of people having conversations simultaneously - that's overwhelming - my poor brain can't figure out who to tune in and who to tune out - can't do it!! Makes the works annual xmas party a real drag :(