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11 Dec 2011, 3:42 am

I find the whole "Ms, Mr, Mrs, Miss" all very strange because of the emphasis it places on gender. I see gender differently from most people in that to me, it really means nothing to me and I'm more inclined to think of people by their merits than the body they possess or the gender identity they have. I grew up around people who all have doctorates, both medical and non, and who have all insisted on being referred to as Dr., and then the people who aren't doctors always have some job that generally has them referred to by their position, (e.g. rabbi, judge). The idea of being referred to by any of the above titles referenced in the title of this article makes me uncomfortable and I cringe when I see them on envelopes intended for me, so I'm just really excited to get a doctorate when I'm older because I'll be Dr. then and not any of those. I guess it's just based on how I want to be seen as a person. I want to be seen as "This person is skilled in this" instead of "this person has this gender identity and this marital status". My parents both have Ph.Ds and are always referred to as Dr., as is my brother who has a Ph.D and his wife, who has an Md, so it may just be my upbringing. The idea though just alienates me, similar to that custom of women changing their last name when getting married.



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11 Dec 2011, 7:32 am

MommyJones wrote:
Ms. came from the women's liberation movement and is used when you are single, but do not want to be referred to as Miss. Miss is for single women, Mrs for married women, but Mr. goes for both, and Ms is for single women who prefer to use that over Miss. I think they may have looked at Miss as degrading or something, particularly when they are older.


Ms is used for married women too. it came out of the womens lib movement and its purpose is to have a word that does not define women by their marital status. thats why i prefer that form of address. i find other forms of reference degrading because of it defining me by my marital status and because it is generally used to refer to the young. master is no longer in common usage as a reference or unmarried men, Mr doesnt specify married men. i like neutral terms. i prefer being called by my name but i understand if people want to use honourifics to keep things formal or impersonal. it's why i use sir and ma'am to refer to people. i dont really say Mrs even if the woman prefers it not because i am disrespecting her preference for it but i just can't pronounce it- it comes out as miss.



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12 Dec 2011, 5:50 am

Here's a whole list to choose from on wikipedia link

I prefer the title of "GOD Emperor", but for some odd reason, it's not taking on as well as I thought it would :P
I suppose "Your Imperial & Royal Majesty" will do.
Or maybe "Your infinite holiness"

No, I don't have delusions of grandeur.
I am just a legend in my own mind. :)


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