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dragonboy
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26 Feb 2007, 1:18 pm

it is a pain having little or no friends but the advantages over "normal" people make up for it. well thats my opinion anyway.



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26 Feb 2007, 5:49 pm

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Dude are you serious???

Well i'd stay with AS than deal/do drugs and drink and have sex underage and like football instead of computers and be popular???

Hell no.


That is stereotypical crap. I'm quite AS (I took a test 148 AS out of 200) and I do some of those things. I don't deal drugs, I just sell cigs to minors :wink:. I drink underage all the time, it won't be as fun when I turn 21. I wanted to have sex underage... but, well AS ruined that and I'm not underage anymore. And American football is the only sport I enjoy watching.

And popularity can do wonders for your career, networking is huge these days. It doesn't matter what you know anymore to the company as long as you have a netwrok of acquaintances to get you promoted. That's stupid but that also really cuts us out, we are missing a lot.



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26 Feb 2007, 5:57 pm

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the nt world. code. everythings code. people are not what you think they are. see beyond your visual perceptions. thats all i'm saying. and i know that i am crazy.


that's not all that crazy. Many people seem to get caught up over the surface material.

Yes, we're missing out. Standard sources of happiness that come easier to NTs can be either difficult to obtain or nonexistent. Upon looking at those sources, they may even begin to appear superficial. The end result is still lost, regardless on the label put on the intermediary.

How many threads are about people feeling lonely? OK, so the sources or "solutions" for not feeling lonely may not be appealing, but does that do anything to lessen that feeling of loneliness? Probably not. One may rationalize that it is better to be lonely than to deal with some of these interactions / situations, but again, that does not remove that feeling of loneliness. Unhappy is better than miserable, but that doesn't make it "good."



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27 Feb 2007, 4:52 am

What I have missed out on is me. I have been trying to be a human so hard and for so long that I have been miserable. F the humans. I am not, nor will I ever be one of them. They have their joys and I have mine. I am now on an adventure of what makes me happy. It is like a detective story, since I have been crushing myself and my needs for so long.

Can a human revel in the simple pleasure of comfy socks? Or getting a booth at the back of a restaurant? Be a human? Bah, I experience things more intensely then they do. They live in a world of shadows and fog, which is why they can tolerate loud dance music and florescent lights. It makes my pain more intense, but my joys greater as well.



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27 Feb 2007, 12:38 pm

I've had people tell me they'd rather "socialize" then do what I do. So, I thought, what is it they do? Well, they get drunk and gab. I remember when I used to hang out with my friends, before I moved, all we ever did was watch t.v. or waste time. Essentially, I was WITH people, but we did absolutely NOTHING. We didn't learn anything, we didn't do much outside of being stupid.

All and all, we all want friends but, again, I think many here simply like the 'idea' of friendship.

Now, if I'm going to hang out, I want a good conversation to develop about something. The t.v. stays OFF!



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27 Feb 2007, 6:06 pm

I sure as hell don't want to be "normal." Normal is for sheep plus I find most of it boring. I learned a while back that I'll never be normal and I don't want to be. It's just not who I am.

Normality doesn't exist anyway because everyone's different.


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27 Feb 2007, 6:54 pm

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Normal is for sheep

Yes, because being NT is just as much of a choice as being a certain race, or as being gay or straight, right?
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Normality doesn't exist anyway because everyone's different.

And then the contradiction.



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28 Feb 2007, 11:36 am

My partner has Asperger's and he say's that it is me that is not "normal". I can't disagree with him asI am a bit batty. He say's he would rather not have all of the emotions that I have to deal with, he considers them my disability, guilt, shame, etc. mainly to do with freindships and family. I can see his point!



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28 Feb 2007, 2:53 pm

Yes I prefer to be induvidual rather than to blend in with the rest of society. At least I'm being the person who I actually am.

I am currently writing a book which will mention whether or not we should 'run with the pack'. I will mention that peer pressure is total codswallop.

The word "normal" has a fundamental flaw; rather than having a solid, tangible definition such as 'whimsical' and 'carcinogenic', the word "normal" changes definition depending on the person and their perspective.

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My partner has Asperger's and he say's that it is me that is not "normal".


That is an example of what I was saying.

One person could say that "normal" is 'one who likes bananas but hates oranges'
Another person could mean "normal" as 'one who hates bananas but likes oranges'
Yet another person may define "normal" as 'someone who loves bananas and oranges', and one other person might say that "normal" is 'one who hates both bananas and oranges'.

It constantly varies.


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28 Feb 2007, 6:02 pm

After years of people telling me that I am "evil" because I'm not "normal",and seeing what THEY do for fun,and trying to think of myself as normal,my answer is this: HELL NO!! !

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28 Feb 2007, 7:35 pm

Call me a cynic but, what's so f***ing great about being yourself if the real you sucks:?:



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28 Feb 2007, 8:54 pm

The only real advantage I'd see of being "NT" would actually being able to communicate and understand things better.



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28 Feb 2007, 8:56 pm

diseased wrote:
alex wrote:
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I don't feel that I'm missing out on anything. I don't want to be hangning out with scantly-dressed Valley Girls, in a Bar or a Club, where there's Rap music playing in the background, paying a fortune for Drinks. I'd rather spend an evening in my new apartment, enjoying my Tea, doing coloured sketches of me Double Deckers and logging to Wrong Planet, for 20 minutes on each hour, while I listen to Dr. Joy Browne.


excuse me, I happen to like hanging out with valley girls AND paris hilton thank you very much


Shouldn't that be "... I WOULD like to hang out..."?
Unless there's something you're not telling us.


Don't forget, alex is famous now, so .... well, there might be new possibilities ... Best of luck, alex!

I'm with nutbag and CockneyRebel. Being me is great, I just wish more people understood that :lol:



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28 Feb 2007, 9:50 pm

I don't think so!


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01 Mar 2007, 1:00 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Call me a cynic but, what's so f***ing great about being yourself if the real you sucks:?:


ya, i think that about myself sometimes, but it could just be the pessimist in me. :wink:



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01 Mar 2007, 1:58 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Call me a cynic but, what's so f***ing great about being yourself if the real you sucks:?:


Who are you basing the judgment on? Is it others that believe you suck, or did you develop that belief on your own? If it is others, why are you so sure they are remotely capable of making such a judgment? If it is you, couldn't that view be a negatively biased one possibly formed from negative experiences / negative treatment by others?

(Lots of assumptions in the latter bit of that, but it had to be done.)