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18 Mar 2012, 1:51 pm

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In my post I was referring to the mood disorder Depression not the term depression in general...It just seems you might make the assumption people are of the type who can control how they feel a bit much, but I could be wrong as I don't know you.


Thing is that I fought. It isn't really hate just I feel nothing for people whom don't try; whom have the ability to try. All though as stated I understand depression as a mood disorder. My younger brother [19], and the youngest is at 14[ turning 15 this April] but he doesn't apply to this situation, the 19 year old has a mood disorder as well as being on the spectrum. I understand not being able to control oneself. I understand the struggles of a mood disorder versus just the word depression. I was simply speaking on the term of depression, not the disorder. Since I don't know to much about it, I only know from what I witness of the 19 year old and I cannot put myself through it all.


Well not trying and having tried just to get nowhere so many times you get burnt out are different in my opinion, I'd say the latter kind of applies to me.......yet I still haven't resigned myself to suicide yet for some reason and am trying to find work or get on SSI so I can at least have a means of income. But another thing with depression is it can really interfere with motivation and energy for even the most insignificant tasks like getting out of bed in the morning......so what looks like not trying sometimes is not what it appears.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:00 pm

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Well not trying and having tried just to get nowhere so many times you get burnt out are different in my opinion, I'd say the latter kind of applies to me.......yet I still haven't resigned myself to suicide yet for some reason and am trying to find work or get on SSI so I can at least have a means of income. But another thing with depression is it can really interfere with motivation and energy for even the most insignificant tasks like getting out of bed in the morning......so what looks like not trying sometimes is not what it appears.


I'll be a bit honest. In middle school, I understand the feeling of not wanting to continue. I have some very distinct memories of building my own grave while so young. I hate middle school, I really hated being there. I remember one day just begging my dad, pleading to him that I didn't want to go. I remember standing at the front door crying. My dad just left me there at the front door and I missed the school bus. I had no help. I just had myself. And either I needed to do something myself or the second option was to give up. I built myself a big giant grave though while in middle school. A kind of grave that I didn't think I could get out of and yet I did. And I did say "for those who had the ability to try". I passed my own limitations and will continue to do so. I will continue to fight even fight through my own self. I became a very hard person and even harder to person to deal with myself. I have a hard time dealing with myself sometimes.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:05 pm

Hey your just choosing to be depressed. All you have to do is get up, and go do something. I was feeling down one day and just decided F this, I want to have a good time so I did. I don't understand why other people don't do that. People blame being depressed for everything when it is their CHOICE!
(by the way all of what I said was a joke)

People lots of times assume everyone is like them, so if they are able to do something or get over something they assume you should be able to.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:08 pm

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Well not trying and having tried just to get nowhere so many times you get burnt out are different in my opinion, I'd say the latter kind of applies to me.......yet I still haven't resigned myself to suicide yet for some reason and am trying to find work or get on SSI so I can at least have a means of income. But another thing with depression is it can really interfere with motivation and energy for even the most insignificant tasks like getting out of bed in the morning......so what looks like not trying sometimes is not what it appears.


I'll be a bit honest. In middle school, I understand the feeling of not wanting to continue. I have some very distinct memories of building my own grave while so young. I hate middle school, I really hated being there. I remember one day just begging my dad, pleading to him that I didn't want to go. I remember standing at the front door crying. My dad just left me there at the front door and I missed the school bus. I had no help. I just had myself. And either I needed to do something myself or the second option was to give up. I built myself a big giant grave though while in middle school. A kind of grave that I didn't think I could get out of and yet I did. And I did say "for those who had the ability to try". I passed my own limitations and will continue to do so. I will continue to fight even fight through my own self. I became a very hard person and even harder to person to deal with myself. I have a hard time dealing with myself sometimes.


I guess part of my problem is I don't think very good of myself.........so to me it feels pointless to fight too hard because in my mind I am not really worth it. But everyone's different, and I think its good if you've found a way to get through things and think better of yourself.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:09 pm

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Hey your just choosing to be depressed. All you have to do is get up, and go do something. I was feeling down one day and just decided F this, I want to have a good time so I did. I don't understand why other people don't do that. People blame being depressed for everything when it is their CHOICE!
(by the way all of what I said was a joke)

People lots of times assume everyone is like them, so if they are able to do something or get over something they assume you should be able to.


Yes I believe the word for that is ignorance...maybe with a bit of egotistical(I'm this way so everyone else should be to) type thinking.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:10 pm

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I guess part of my problem is I don't think very good of myself.........so to me it feels pointless to fight too hard because in my mind I am not really worth it. But everyone's different, and I think its good if you've found a way to get through things and think better of yourself.


Actually you'd be surprised what I think about myself. It isn't that I think better of myself. It isn't really about the way I feel about myself more the way I believe in life and my moral code.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:12 pm

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People lots of times assume everyone is like them, so if they are able to do something or get over something they assume you should be able to.


Personally, I feel anyone can do something. It isn't a matter of me being able to do something so other people should be able to do it. I feel it isn't because of me. I feel anyone is capable of doing it. Anyone. Not just me.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:13 pm

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I guess part of my problem is I don't think very good of myself.........so to me it feels pointless to fight too hard because in my mind I am not really worth it. But everyone's different, and I think its good if you've found a way to get through things and think better of yourself.


Actually you'd be surprised what I think about myself. It isn't that I think better of myself. It isn't really about the way I feel about myself more the way I believe in life and my moral code.


Well if I based all my actions on how I feel about myself I think I would be dead already.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:13 pm

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People lots of times assume everyone is like them, so if they are able to do something or get over something they assume you should be able to.


Personally, I feel anyone can do something. It isn't a matter of me being able to do something so other people should be able to do it. I feel it isn't because of me. I feel anyone is capable of doing it. Anyone. Not just me.


something though, not everyone can do everything.


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18 Mar 2012, 2:14 pm

I can fly


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18 Mar 2012, 2:14 pm

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Well if I based all my actions on how I feel about myself I think I would be dead already.


Same could be said for me. However, I do plan to die early. In my late 30s. I don't know how this will be achieved, since I do not want suicide nor do I consider the option. However, I rather die immortal than die mortal.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:17 pm

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I can fly


For your own safety please don't put that theory to the test....especially if you are any long distance above the ground. lol


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18 Mar 2012, 2:21 pm

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I can fly


For your own safety please don't put that theory to the test....especially if you are any long distance above the ground. lol


lol.

That's just to good.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:39 pm

Pandora_Box wrote:
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I can fly


For your own safety please don't put that theory to the test....especially if you are any long distance above the ground. lol


lol.

That's just to good.


Hey you said you thought anyone can do anything


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18 Mar 2012, 2:43 pm

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Hey you said you thought anyone can do anything


I'm talking about that situation at hand. I didn't mean illogical irrational things. I have stated before I am very rational and logical. I meant about depression and emotions, anyone can feel the way they want to and I am a firm believe that anyone can do anything in the realms of the subject. Do not try phoney arguments over me.



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18 Mar 2012, 5:38 pm

Alexender wrote:
Hey your just choosing to be depressed. All you have to do is get up, and go do something. I was feeling down one day and just decided F this, I want to have a good time so I did. I don't understand why other people don't do that. People blame being depressed for everything when it is their CHOICE!
(by the way all of what I said was a joke)

People lots of times assume everyone is like them, so if they are able to do something or get over something they assume you should be able to.

Yeah, and they usually don't even understand the condition they think they're talking about. I.e. they don't know what "anhedonia" means.