does anyone here try to do "small-talk"
Next you can do that one of spiders influenced by different drugs
or that guy that collects spiderwebs. By painting them with spray-paint. It's magical.
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Yes, the obsession with celebrity culture is disproportionate and ridiculous but please don't do yourself and everyone you meet a disservice by talking about things you think are dull. If you really do want to know more about that anyway, you can always start reading TMZ.com. Easy.
I'm sure you can find something that you find interesting or are good at that is possible to use for small-talk.
ETA: Images are hotlinked. If there's a way to upload images here I'll do that?
I'm currently training to be a running and exercise coach since this seems to be the area where people are most interested to hear my technical opinions and have specific advice given. However I know that learning small-talk would also be useful to the success of such a venture.
I think the obsession about celebrities has to do with people being disatisfied with their own lifestyle and fantasising about rich peoples instead of trying to make their own better. However I dont understand much of the articles on clothing and weight especially of female celebrities. What looks good on them and what they weigh has no bearing on what should be the case for myself, or others for that matter. So hmmm, don't get it, but if it is part of the small-talk vocubulary a passing knowledge would help.
I used celebrity info and tv/pop culture related example since it is the most common thing I hear.
For example, just yesterday in between univ. classes I was sitting near some people that were just small talking. For 30 minutes it was an inane back and forth of things that simply weren't related to each other. It was like flicking through dozens of channels on the TV at random and listening to what was being said for 5 minutes then *click* subject change to a documentary about the menstrual cycle of blue whales *click* burger king's great decision to sell chicken strips *click* how they hated certain pens because they'd spill the ink inside one's pockets *click* all about the new sighting of Tupac's ghost on some stage in NYC *click*...
this is psychotic behavior or something.
Since im so close by, every now and then they were glancing at me as if expecting me to jump in and say something.
I must've looked like this to them:
Yes, this description seems to capture this phenomemon perfectly! My head can't keep up with it its so dizzying.
Its not just the topics per se I have a problem with - I remember someone started up about celebrities and I thought it would be interesting and relevant to talk about celebrity culture in the context of Marcuse's theories about "advanced industrial society" and the creation of false needs (this guy's a Marxist philosopher and an anti-consumerist) - but its the way in which the topics are presented which is often the problem - Dantac's example makes a lot of sense -most people flit from topic to topic whereas toward the aspie end of the spectrum we want to get more depth more detail. Anecdotes about household stuff are the hardest things for me to find a link into so I would probably not use that for small talk. Pop music easier, but again I have to try and remember to comment in the small-talk context to comment in brevity. I hope those books I have ordered will help explain some of the popular small-talk topics in more detail.
I have nightmare going on dates as the date will normally start off with small talk - I think I will have to stick to dating other aspies or intellectual/gifted types as at least they might better appreciate my conversation style.
PS. love the piccies of the druggie spiders' webs. They are endlessly fascinating creatures to watch.
When people ask "How are you?" and I'm feeling bad, I always feel guilty because I don't want to lie to them, even though I know they don't actually care how I'm doing. I:>
Also, small talk in general for me is boring and awkward, and I hate doing it. Thank god my school is quirky and the kids here have weird boundary issues? ;;orzz
No, because I don't emotionally bond with people, which is what the purpose of small talk is. My purpose in relationships is different... I seek to obtain/share useful and helpful knowledge. My version of small talk are repetitive nonverbal or small verbal exchanges that appear quite random to other people.
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Leading a double life and loving it (but exhausted).
Likely ADHD instead of what I've been diagnosed with before.
I have realised that "how are you" is not really a question it is a greeting phrased like a question and you have to say "fine thanks" to acknowledge the greeting instead of actually telling someone in detail how you are actually feeling.
Isn't it ridiculous? I mean, if someone asks, HOW ARE YOU? Why NOT tell them "how you are". This is an area I struggle with as well.. and I'm NT. It got to the point where anytime someone asks me, I say, "Good. How are you?" Then, one day, a colleague was talking with another colleague, in front of me. When they were done, she turned to me and said, "I'm not even going to ask you how you are. I know you're good." ..and then walked away.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The only thing that confuses me about small talk is how anyone is supposed to find it enjoyable or fulfilling. I can take part in the 'conversation' if I want, but it takes a lot of concentration and frankly just isn't worth it to me. I usually just tune it out and only chime in when the subject drifts onto something interesting or funny (or something I can seque into being interesting or funny).
This is only my opinion and I have nothing to back it up. But if NTs have a prejudice towards persons on the autism spectrum, would be because they use social intelligence to gauge and value your worth. Those that are slow to respond or interest to engage in this social battlefield if you will, get rated accordingly. I would imagine that NTs would mimic this too and they might be better at it, as I guess, they set the rules.
I'm usually in scenarios where I interact with NT's on a daily basis, so I'm forced to do it a lot, even though it's not really my preference.
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I seek to be well-known
If we find a friendship that's forged without masks
Then I have done my job
I don't really enjoy it, but I do it because I see it as a "gateway" into the things that I'd much rather discuss.
It has a purely emotional basis and allows the other person to establish whether you are a likable person or not. It sets a friendly "tone" and allows people to become comfortable with each other...and I know that most people on the spectrum have difficulty with identifying and creating emotional tone, which is why, in turn, they find small talk difficult.
To be honest, I haven't become able to sense "tone" myself until after years and years of scrutinizing social situations. Now that I have fully concious awareness of tone (as opposed to NTs who seem to not think about it), I strive to cultivate a positive tone within people by doing things like small talk. It's mainly fueled by me being a social perfectionist and by trying to make the best impression on people as possible. I try not to do this with others on the spectrum, though sometimes I will go into "social autopilot" and assume that they can read it, when often, they can't.
Although I enjoy positive emotional "tone" and I feel good when I am able to create and establish this with people...that's the only thing about small talk I like. The reason I hate it is due to its lack of substance and focus on commonalities between the two parties. I am a very unique person and it's generally difficult for me to think of things I have in common with people: and small talk is about establishing commonality. If the other person and I do have something in common (i.e. a mutual friend or interest), it is easy for me, but when I discover that a person likes different things or has different values or preferences, it becomes tough and I become very uncomfortable. I also become very uncomfortable around people who seem to thrive on small-talk and don't get past this stage easily. This is why I've learned to seek out people who I either have something in common with or who focus instead on things like humor instead of overly polite, idle, banal, chit-chat.
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Given a “tentative” diagnosis as a child as I needed services at school for what was later correctly discovered to be a major anxiety disorder.
This misdiagnosis caused me significant stress, which lessened upon finding out the truth about myself from my current and past long-term therapists - that I am an anxious and highly sensitive person but do not have an autism spectrum disorder.
My diagnoses - social anxiety disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
I’m no longer involved with the ASD world.
You have to use small talk in the "getting to know you" phase of every relationship. If I'm meeting someone for the first time, I need to know what they like to talk about before I start delving into a topic. That means you have to pick topics that you know the other person might know. The weather is a good starting point because everyone experiences it. News topics are also a good starting point as long as it's not political. If they're wearing a funny t-shirt you can start the conversation with that, or if you share a class with this person, you can start off talking about the professor or the last assignment. Think of small talk as a social warm-up. As you're conversing, you can start looking for opportunities to delve into a deeper topic. For example, my special interest is dogs, so if I hear the other person mention something about their dog, I'm going delve into that area. The key is to always let the other person broach the subject first. I've had an aspie just come up to me and start monologuing about hip-hop. He didn't even bother to consider that I might not care for that particular genre. That's how not to make friends.
My boyfriend is also an aspie, and we used small-talk to initiate our relationship. I admit it was awkward because it's not natural for either of us, but we would not be together if we didn't make the effort to learn. The nice thing is that now that we've known each other for a while, we don't have to rely so much on superficial conversation.
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Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently.
Wow, this is something, many times I go somewhere, and as they say "Hi can I help you?" I say "Hey, how are you doing today?" And they just stare at me... seconds tick by, and I'm like, should I repeat myself? Or ask again? Or just tell her to help me, with what I came for? Jeez, just trying to be friendly, and nice, and be interested in them, so I ask how they are doing, and they just stare at me impatiently, like... I don't have time for you, what do you want... lol It's so complicated!
