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violet_yoshi
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11 Dec 2007, 5:22 pm

I'd tell your parents Goths and any other kind of "freak" aren't the ones they need to worry about. They need to worry about the normal looking kids, who are hiding their bad deeds under preppy clothing.


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11 Dec 2007, 6:50 pm

I personally don't see what some people seem to have against goths. One of my sisters is a goth and an alternative model, and even my Mum identifies with that culture, so I spent a lot of my childhood and teenage years surrounded by that lifestyle. All the goths I've ever met have been really nice (except when my sister and I went through the usual sibling rivalry phases :P ), and not at all violent or "bad influences", which so many people seem to think they are. And as for long leather coats, I don't see why they should be a problem. :) I find that mine is wonderfully warm in winter, and keeps more of me dry in rainy weather than a normal coat would! :P



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11 Dec 2007, 6:58 pm

People have called me "goth" for the way I sometimes dress. I prefer black and I like black tights and boots. My preference in music might also win me the title. Some of it gets to the point of just being tacky though. I like any genre, as long as it's done tastefully.


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11 Dec 2007, 7:11 pm

I once saw a goth teen warn off a guy who was starting to harass a woman in the Mall of America bus station. I've gotten along better with the goths I've met than I do with most people. It seems to be a more open state of mind.


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11 Dec 2007, 11:26 pm

Listens to Gloria Mundi's "What's Going On?". There's your answer! :P


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12 Dec 2007, 3:32 am

I have nothing against goths. Their clothing is pretty cool, and they seem no better or worse than any other people.
My best friend is a goth/metalhead.


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12 Dec 2007, 8:30 am

It's a cute look for girls. But I'm getting a little old to still have a secret crush on the girl behind the counter at the record store.



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12 Dec 2007, 9:01 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
I have nothing against goths. Their clothing is pretty cool, and they seem no better or worse than any other people.
My best friend is a goth/metalhead.


When will this disturbing fascination with linking Goth and Metal together end?

I've never seen anybody walk up to The Beatles and say "Hey you played some great Punk Rock!". I think I'm losing my mind. :coffee:

When I'm an old man I'm going to be sitting on a Verandah in fishnets and black jeans with a jacket yelling out to the kids "Stop bloody co-opting my Sub-culture you little sh*ts!" and throwing 21st Century Goth books at their tiny ICP clad bodies.


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12 Dec 2007, 11:47 am

beautifulspam wrote:
But I'm getting a little old to still have a secret crush on the girl behind the counter at the record store.


aww, can one ever be too old for the little everyday dreams? <3



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12 Dec 2007, 12:32 pm

Frankly, I find it lame.

If goth is a state of mind or a frame of attitude, then why does it have to manifest physically? (ie the makeup, black hair, black clothing).... Why not just follow your beliefs, hang out with similarly minded people and forget trying to attract attention?

I can't fathom why anyone would want that kind of attention. It's an identity crisis, it's a youth issue. I look at groups of teenagers skulking around looking like Tammy Fae going to a funeral and I sneer at the ridiculousness of it. They'll grow out of it, it's just a phase.



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12 Dec 2007, 12:53 pm

Goth is primarily an aesthetic sort of thing, hence why it tends to manifest in modes of dress. I tend to hang about with a few goths and they are genuinely nice people, of course you get the few that are, shall we say, not that nice, but generally they're a nice and accepting bunch of misfits.



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12 Dec 2007, 3:06 pm

jup mr grey, thats about it.

of course, minding beautiful things, beauty itself etc. would be enough - but doing that WHILE looking good and wearing pretty clothes is even better. :D
i, on the other hand, dont get why physical manifestation of something is always interpreted as "OMG, he is trying to shock people!" - what pretentiousness...



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12 Dec 2007, 4:15 pm

gekitsu wrote:
of course, minding beautiful things, beauty itself etc. would be enough - but doing that WHILE looking good and wearing pretty clothes is even better. :D


That is a personal opinion. What 'passes' for pretty/comely apparel is often set by the majority, and I don't believe the majority would agree. Image

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i, on the other hand, dont get why physical manifestation of something is always interpreted as "OMG, he is trying to shock people!" - what pretentiousness...


I never said i found it shocking. I said it was ridiculous. I wager you'd be hard pressed to shock anyone in this day and age as "goth" seems to encompass nearly all facets of disgruntled angsty teens. But since you want to fling the term around, I think it's pretentious to parade around in Victorian dress or what have you and expect people to take you (GY) serious. Now, if you don't mind that, then by all means carry on Image



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12 Dec 2007, 4:22 pm

Not my thing, but what ever floats your boat.



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12 Dec 2007, 4:57 pm

I always get uncomfortable whenever I feel like I've become part of a group. I used to dye my hair crazy colours, wore flared cords with massive boots, but then people started to call me a goth and I didn't like it.

To me, clothes are just clothes. If you like them, wear them. If you want a long leather coat, get a leather coat, and explain to your mum that wearing different clothes is not going to change who you are.



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12 Dec 2007, 5:18 pm

EvilKimEvil wrote:
Goths are a more diverse group of people than most people realize. There are many different subsubcultures within the goth subculture. Not all goths shop at Hot Topic. In fact, a lot of goths hate Hot Topic. Some goths do not even look "goth"--they don't dress all in black or dye their hair black. They have other goth tastes and interests instead.

Hot Topic and the widely known goth look are associated with kids who are experimenting with being goth. For most, it will just be a phase. Others learn more about it, relate to it, and go beyond Hot Topic.

Goths are really just people with certain tastes and interests. There is goth music, writing, art, etc. Beyond that, it is not realistic to generalize.


This is very correct - having been into the scene for just under 10 years now, I am currently sitting here in a pair of blue jeans, white trainers and my Man Utd shirt - listening to Bathory who are an 80's black metal band. I was always quite lucky really - my mother and father were fans of Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd etc so I think they understood. But I think in many ways - just talking to your mother about it might help - you don't have to explain all aspects but just certain ones. I must confess though, all this is said living in England not knowing if leather coats etc. are still connected to the Trenchcoat Mafia of Columbine, so my entire point may be redundant.