Can you be Asperger's and still be "cool"?

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27 Jan 2010, 3:01 am

In my opinion I feel that my freinds and peers perceive me a cool person to talk to and my freinds tell me that I am a good freind. Sometimes I make my freinds laugh, not laugh at me but laugh with me. I only have like 1 enemy and the reason is that this one person is literally evil and likes to provoke and stir up drama between others.



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27 Jan 2010, 3:38 am

As Fonzie would say.... "Heeeyyyyyyyyy!"



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27 Jan 2010, 6:07 am

to be serious i am not cool. i do not use "buzz" words.
i never say "dude"
i never wear sunglasses.
i have no rings or other jewelry adorning me.
i have no tattoos.
i have no idea about "fashion"
i am completely aloof from the current trends.

no one ever said i was "cool" and i have no interest in being "cool".

i do not really like people who have a sense of who is "cool" and who is not.
if someone called me "cool" i would say "whatever".

therefore maybe i am hot.
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mjs82 wrote:
As Fonzie would say.... "Heeeyyyyyyyyy!"

yes he said that but he never finished his sentence.
"heyyyy" what?

i did not watch "happy days" because it was nonsensical to my mind.

i am not denigrating it though. it is just that i do not have that ingredient in my psyche that lets me understand the jargon that they used, and i could not understand why they were happy.



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27 Jan 2010, 8:55 am

People with AS usually start out as geeks because they have very flawed social skills and unusual interests, but later in life they can become more "cool" as they diversify their interests and train their social skills.

I would say I've been in the transition between geeky and cool for the last 10 years or so.... With a little help from my friends, I should eventually get there. :D



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27 Jan 2010, 7:24 pm

b9 wrote:
i did not watch "happy days" because it was nonsensical to my mind.

i am not denigrating it though. it is just that i do not have that ingredient in my psyche that lets me understand the jargon that they used, and i could not understand why they were happy.


What's nonsensical to me is the laugh tracks on sit coms. I guess nowadays there's a live audience watching as they tape the shows, and they are cued to laugh heartily at things that aren't actually funny enough to warrant a laugh.

Like, one character will say, "I don't feel so good," and the other says, "mmm hmmm." Then the audience laughs, "HA HA HA HA!! !" really loudly, as if it's the most hilarious thing they've ever heard in their lives.

I think I'd like to direct a television drama, with a live audience. I'd cue them to gasp and sob loudly at random moments.



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27 Jan 2010, 7:26 pm

If you're nice, yes.
But then you're just nice and eccentric, at least that's usually the case.


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28 Jan 2010, 3:17 am

elderwanda wrote:
b9 wrote:
i did not watch "happy days" because it was nonsensical to my mind.

i am not denigrating it though. it is just that i do not have that ingredient in my psyche that lets me understand the jargon that they used, and i could not understand why they were happy.


What's nonsensical to me is the laugh tracks on sit coms. I guess nowadays there's a live audience watching as they tape the shows, and they are cued to laugh heartily at things that aren't actually funny enough to warrant a laugh.

Like, one character will say, "I don't feel so good," and the other says, "mmm hmmm." Then the audience laughs, "HA HA HA HA!! !" really loudly, as if it's the most hilarious thing they've ever heard in their lives.

I think I'd like to direct a television drama, with a live audience. I'd cue them to gasp and sob loudly at random moments.


Since about about 2002 the laugh track has been out of fashion, but these things come and go in waves.

Re coolness I am a cucumber... as in... 'cool-as-a-'



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28 Jan 2010, 8:44 am

elderwanda wrote:
What's nonsensical to me is the laugh tracks on sit coms. I guess nowadays there's a live audience watching as they tape the shows, and they are cued to laugh heartily at things that aren't actually funny enough to warrant a laugh.

Like, one character will say, "I don't feel so good," and the other says, "mmm hmmm." Then the audience laughs, "HA HA HA HA!! !" really loudly, as if it's the most hilarious thing they've ever heard in their lives.

I think I'd like to direct a television drama, with a live audience. I'd cue them to gasp and sob loudly at random moments.

old sitcoms had a pre recorded laugh track, and they had exactly the same laughs that i heard many times. (during the very few episodes i ever saw)

these days, a sign says similar to "laugh now", and the studio audience all laughs (or else maybe they would be escorted out).
it is a farce in my opinion.

but my opinion is that of a very dim witted observer of social reality.



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28 Jan 2010, 4:22 pm

I'm cool to my friends 8)
But I'm not cool in the popular kid sense, I've tried I have really tried but I failed. I gave up in year 8 and stuck with people who accept me and it just so happens that they are usually nerds/loners/aspies etc and I'm perfectly happy with that. I don't wear fashionable clothes (every attempt I made at being fashionable just didn't suit me. ever) I usually just wear jeans, tshirt, jumper and tatty trainers and my dated denim jacket with fur trims that would have been fashionable in 2002. I don't act "cool" either, it's near impossible to do.
Not that I care, my little circle of best friends don't care who I am and that's all that matters :D


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07 Feb 2010, 5:06 pm

i am quite cool, cuz i have a unquie sense of how to how to have fun i have various events with freinds at school danceoffs , pre cancer drive funraiser sales , free chip sales and hot sauce sample sales and shop in between songs at the dance in the lobby, skate shows, bmx shows i also plan dance videos, rap videos, videogame videos/tounrments skateboard /bmx videos in my garage/basement, in front of my house, at the skate parks and street footage as well at skate bmx at skateparks and street spots. i am a cool skater bmxer that learns from each person i bike/skate with i would say i have a cool image i dress skater bmxer amoung other things i am quite calm and cool and have an amazing chill , freindly easy to get along with peronality.



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08 Feb 2010, 5:38 am

Well...

I am sitting in my office at work right now reading this and my Snoopy socks I am wearing says "King of Cool"

So I'm cool right? 8)


Hmmm, OK, maybe not.... :lol:

Actually, I wouldn't know Cool if he danced on the table with his friends Peer Pressure and Fashion Sense.



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08 Feb 2010, 6:13 am

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I go to any skating rink in the country, wear the right clothes, do some tricks which usually gets me noticed as the best skater there, then everyone thinks i'm cool. They smile at me, clap, nod in my direction, tell me my tricks are cool etc, then the DJ mentions me and more people start watching...

Some of them find me too cool to approach and just watch me.

Some of them come up to me and want to chat but the music is so loud they just shout something at me and i smile or give them a thumbs up and it's all good.

Some of them come up to me when it's quieter, or in the toilets or cafe, or after the session and want to chat, which is when i say something stupid then run away, which kinda ruins things.

And of course when i tell anyone about this, they go "omg you nerd, you skate? lol that's so 80's, do you go round and round on your little roller skates all night?"

But on the whole, i feel cool 8)



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...I think a lot of people find talented people to be "cool". Lot's of people on the spectrum become very talented in their field of interest (for example skating). This gives them a sort of boost on the "cool meter" and also gets them respect. This in turn usually results in the person becoming more confident in themselves and more accepting of their disorder. I find anyone who is confident and accepting of themselves to be cool.


This is interesting. I'm 38 and have never been "cool" (far from it). However, in the past few years I have discovered and developed a special interest into a skill (and a career, actually. In fact, it's so all-encompassing in my mind that sometimes I annoy myself with my uber-focus. But I digress). Anyway, what I do is construed by some as "cool". Obviously, if the same people saw me in the supermarket, shut down, rubbing my eyebrows and staring at the pasta, I doubt they'd still think I was "cool" :)



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08 Feb 2010, 7:15 am

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Actually, I wouldn't know Cool if he danced on the table with his friends Peer Pressure and Fashion Sense.


:lmao: I giggled out loud at that. It's so true for moi


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08 Feb 2010, 1:23 pm

"Cool" is a subjective term. I think complete dweebs who like video games and dress up as pirates on weekends are cool, but that's just me. LOL! This all coming from a girl w/blue hair.

If you mean "Can you have AS and have a relatively normal social life?" Sure. It depends on your flexibility, willingness to learn NT social cues and language but without sacrificing who you are in the process. It's not worth "fitting in" if you have to sacrifice your core principles. What's important is that you enjoy the company of those you're with and not making yourself like somebody because of their perceived social status in the "cool crowd".


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09 Feb 2010, 4:57 am

GoddessofSnowandIce wrote:
"Cool" is a subjective term. I think complete dweebs who like video games and dress up as pirates on weekends are cool, but that's just me. LOL! This all coming from a girl w/blue hair.

Blue hair is cool. What colour are your eyes? Sorry getting sidetracked there.

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If you mean "Can you have AS and have a relatively normal social life?" Sure. It depends on your flexibility, willingness to learn NT social cues and language but without sacrificing who you are in the process. It's not worth "fitting in" if you have to sacrifice your core principles.

and in my experience its not even as simple as if its worth it. Generally it does not work for me. I find I just can't fit in, never mind if I am willing to sacrifice my principles to do it.

GoddessofSnowandIce wrote:
What's important is that you enjoy the company of those you're with and not making yourself like somebody because of their perceived social status in the "cool crowd".

Making yourself like someone cool does not make you cool anyway. It just makes you one of the cool persons ... can't think of the right word, lets just make it "minions" or a "wanna be" .

That reminds me of the words of a Hawk Nelson song:
Hawk Nelson - Friend like that wrote:
My life is simple and
I'm not a superman
I never said that I was more than that
I'm not a wanna be
I'm who I want to be
And I intend to be
How you created me



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09 Feb 2010, 8:58 am

My eyes are golden brown. I wish they were violet or bright blue. My daughter lucked out and has beautiful blue eyes. Must be hiding a recessive gene in there somewhere. ^_^

I hear you on not being worth it, but there are many occasions where I come into contact with NTs. Some are my friends because they're open-minded enough or quirky enough (some are ADD/ADHD-- a cousin of us spectrumites) on their own that they mesh with me. Most NTs that I mingle with are acquaintances. Nice people, but really wouldn't go to friend level with most simply because it's too much work on my part to pretend to keep up with their topics of interest, small talk and tendancy to hang out in large crowds that overwhelm my ability to hold a conversation.

It's taken me a long time of self-discovery and reflection to like myself enough. I know I'll never be comfortable completely with interaction outside of my close circle, but I do try-- not because I feel I "have to fit in", but because it's good practice that can be applied to faking NT at my job.


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