12 Jan 2012, 6:41 pm
And once again, this is really you and they are your children?!?
How could anybody I know look like this? you look like some kind of Television superstars, your girls will probably become models or actors one day, I'm totally flashed. xD
I want such children too xD
And i want to look like you xD
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12 Jan 2012, 6:48 pm
12 Jan 2012, 7:21 pm
awes wrote:
You and your children look amazing, really beautiful people!
You can be so extremely proud of you and your children, but much more of you, for your life, for your character, for your success, even for your look.
I never thought about having somebody as a role model, I am me, and I know what's rational, logical and good but wow, I can't help myself, it's such a rare situation, you are better than me and I don't hate you for that, much more I deify you.
But that doesn't mean that I can't become like you, I can learn from you.
You are a fantastical person, I don't know, I've lost my words
The only thing I'm a little bit sceptical about is the thing about homeschool.
I'm sure you do it perfectly but it could be that because of your experiences you have become a little bit overprotective. To grow a character like yours it's necessary to have some experiences, of course not ones that like yours but the public and even the private schools are really important to learn how to socialise. The real function of a school is not teaching maths, english or history. To be true, those subjects are replaceable and not much worth in the long run (except of english), the real function of a school is growing a character, becoming tough, learning how to deal with arguments (I know, not a good example for me, but in fact I did also have to learn my way of handling it), selecting out your own friends etc.. I'm not a friend of any western school system. I think they impress children to become conservative robots who think in stereotypes and much more lose their liberal thinking. But it made no impression on me. And it made no impression on you. And, I can see it alone from the pictures of your children, they are as precious as you. You gave birth to them, how could it ever be different?
I think in spite of all the dark sides of the school system and schoolmates I don't know an equal substitution. But I don't know where you live and how the school there are like, if you live in the U.S. the schools there would certainly never reach the quality of an Austrian school, at least not the public schools.
You'll do it right anyway. I adore you Persephone, I adore you!^^
You can be so extremely proud of you and your children, but much more of you, for your life, for your character, for your success, even for your look.
I never thought about having somebody as a role model, I am me, and I know what's rational, logical and good but wow, I can't help myself, it's such a rare situation, you are better than me and I don't hate you for that, much more I deify you.
But that doesn't mean that I can't become like you, I can learn from you.
You are a fantastical person, I don't know, I've lost my words
The only thing I'm a little bit sceptical about is the thing about homeschool.
I'm sure you do it perfectly but it could be that because of your experiences you have become a little bit overprotective. To grow a character like yours it's necessary to have some experiences, of course not ones that like yours but the public and even the private schools are really important to learn how to socialise. The real function of a school is not teaching maths, english or history. To be true, those subjects are replaceable and not much worth in the long run (except of english), the real function of a school is growing a character, becoming tough, learning how to deal with arguments (I know, not a good example for me, but in fact I did also have to learn my way of handling it), selecting out your own friends etc.. I'm not a friend of any western school system. I think they impress children to become conservative robots who think in stereotypes and much more lose their liberal thinking. But it made no impression on me. And it made no impression on you. And, I can see it alone from the pictures of your children, they are as precious as you. You gave birth to them, how could it ever be different?
I think in spite of all the dark sides of the school system and schoolmates I don't know an equal substitution. But I don't know where you live and how the school there are like, if you live in the U.S. the schools there would certainly never reach the quality of an Austrian school, at least not the public schools.
You'll do it right anyway. I adore you Persephone, I adore you!^^
Thank You Awes! I would love to adopt you.
((( Hugs ))) I am not better than you in ANY way. (In fact, I quite envy your musical abilities!) I am much older than you, that is the difference. Time. In fact, I can understand you because I was much like you. I am also imperfect in many ways that aren't evident to you. We are the same kind of person. I am German as well, so maybe there is something to our genetics. One reason that I believe that we are simply a different type of person is that my mother was an Aspie, who played concert piano at age 9 and skipped two grades of school. My grandfather was also an Aspie. The youngest of 10 children, they came to the USA as part of the Amish. He only went to school until he was 11 years old, but went on the design aircraft for the US government. The point is, it runs deep in my family. We aren't sick, just different. I think it's possibly some form of evolution taking place and we are just the beginning stages, thus, there are a few kinks.
I hated school and you couldn't pay me enough to endure it again...lol I quit school and got a job when I was 15. I took the tests to get out of high school at that time. I study on my own, that is also an Aspie thing. I can not quit reading or trying to understand things, ever. My mind doesn't sleep much.
For my children, My goal is to teach them how to behave before it's pointed out that they are acting different. They will never know. We work on what we need to without the context of being judged. Like: I have taught them personal space, to summarize, not to talk about things that others don't seem interested in, how to tell when others are not interested, etc. So far, I have achieved this and also: I have not kept a particular schedule etc for the purposes of not allowing attachment to routine. I am trying to keep them flexible so they do not become rigid. I do keep them in dance, voice lessons, drama etc and they get to socialize that way.
13 Jan 2012, 1:00 pm
PersephoneX wrote:
awes wrote:
You and your children look amazing, really beautiful people!
You can be so extremely proud of you and your children, but much more of you, for your life, for your character, for your success, even for your look.
I never thought about having somebody as a role model, I am me, and I know what's rational, logical and good but wow, I can't help myself, it's such a rare situation, you are better than me and I don't hate you for that, much more I deify you.
But that doesn't mean that I can't become like you, I can learn from you.
You are a fantastical person, I don't know, I've lost my words
The only thing I'm a little bit sceptical about is the thing about homeschool.
I'm sure you do it perfectly but it could be that because of your experiences you have become a little bit overprotective. To grow a character like yours it's necessary to have some experiences, of course not ones that like yours but the public and even the private schools are really important to learn how to socialise. The real function of a school is not teaching maths, english or history. To be true, those subjects are replaceable and not much worth in the long run (except of english), the real function of a school is growing a character, becoming tough, learning how to deal with arguments (I know, not a good example for me, but in fact I did also have to learn my way of handling it), selecting out your own friends etc.. I'm not a friend of any western school system. I think they impress children to become conservative robots who think in stereotypes and much more lose their liberal thinking. But it made no impression on me. And it made no impression on you. And, I can see it alone from the pictures of your children, they are as precious as you. You gave birth to them, how could it ever be different?
I think in spite of all the dark sides of the school system and schoolmates I don't know an equal substitution. But I don't know where you live and how the school there are like, if you live in the U.S. the schools there would certainly never reach the quality of an Austrian school, at least not the public schools.
You'll do it right anyway. I adore you Persephone, I adore you!^^
You can be so extremely proud of you and your children, but much more of you, for your life, for your character, for your success, even for your look.
I never thought about having somebody as a role model, I am me, and I know what's rational, logical and good but wow, I can't help myself, it's such a rare situation, you are better than me and I don't hate you for that, much more I deify you.
But that doesn't mean that I can't become like you, I can learn from you.
You are a fantastical person, I don't know, I've lost my words
The only thing I'm a little bit sceptical about is the thing about homeschool.
I'm sure you do it perfectly but it could be that because of your experiences you have become a little bit overprotective. To grow a character like yours it's necessary to have some experiences, of course not ones that like yours but the public and even the private schools are really important to learn how to socialise. The real function of a school is not teaching maths, english or history. To be true, those subjects are replaceable and not much worth in the long run (except of english), the real function of a school is growing a character, becoming tough, learning how to deal with arguments (I know, not a good example for me, but in fact I did also have to learn my way of handling it), selecting out your own friends etc.. I'm not a friend of any western school system. I think they impress children to become conservative robots who think in stereotypes and much more lose their liberal thinking. But it made no impression on me. And it made no impression on you. And, I can see it alone from the pictures of your children, they are as precious as you. You gave birth to them, how could it ever be different?
I think in spite of all the dark sides of the school system and schoolmates I don't know an equal substitution. But I don't know where you live and how the school there are like, if you live in the U.S. the schools there would certainly never reach the quality of an Austrian school, at least not the public schools.
You'll do it right anyway. I adore you Persephone, I adore you!^^
Thank You Awes! I would love to adopt you.
((( Hugs ))) I am not better than you in ANY way. (In fact, I quite envy your musical abilities!) I am much older than you, that is the difference. Time. In fact, I can understand you because I was much like you. I am also imperfect in many ways that aren't evident to you. We are the same kind of person. I am German as well, so maybe there is something to our genetics. One reason that I believe that we are simply a different type of person is that my mother was an Aspie, who played concert piano at age 9 and skipped two grades of school. My grandfather was also an Aspie. The youngest of 10 children, they came to the USA as part of the Amish. He only went to school until he was 11 years old, but went on the design aircraft for the US government. The point is, it runs deep in my family. We aren't sick, just different. I think it's possibly some form of evolution taking place and we are just the beginning stages, thus, there are a few kinks. I hated school and you couldn't pay me enough to endure it again...lol I quit school and got a job when I was 15. I took the tests to get out of high school at that time. I study on my own, that is also an Aspie thing. I can not quit reading or trying to understand things, ever. My mind doesn't sleep much.
For my children, My goal is to teach them how to behave before it's pointed out that they are acting different. They will never know. We work on what we need to without the context of being judged. Like: I have taught them personal space, to summarize, not to talk about things that others don't seem interested in, how to tell when others are not interested, etc. So far, I have achieved this and also: I have not kept a particular schedule etc for the purposes of not allowing attachment to routine. I am trying to keep them flexible so they do not become rigid. I do keep them in dance, voice lessons, drama etc and they get to socialize that way.
I'm just afraid of being some kind of hypochondriac if I throw around with diagnosises, I would not dare to call my father an autist, though he shows many parallels to me and I'm pretty sure that he has the aspergers syndrome to the same degree as I have it. But he had a totally different story than me. He comes from a rural village. His parents wanted to force him to become a priest. He didn't want that and took flight to Vienna. Out of a matter of fortune he grew a fascination for oriental carpets and now he trades them, traveling around the world. In his scene he is famous. And I think he can be very proud of what he has done and does, especially in relation to the few things that were given to him. He always sais that a diagnosis doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is what you are and what you are able to reach with the things that are given to you. Survival of the fittest. And I think the same. My father has once said to me that I totally remind him of his grandfather. Probably he had the aspergers syndrom too. I do only believe that the term syndrom is degrading, because nobody of them, neither me, ever suffered from social issues. The eye contact but nothing else. Much more we are leader characters who are well respected and can be friend of anybody we want to be friend of. We all can and could convince people perfectly, analyse them while in conversation and can and could also act very good. And that's why my psychatrists called my autism "atypical", the negative symptoms are rare. Not long ago my father said himself, though he's totally against diagnosises which, so he sais, make the persons more sick than the sickness itself, "If you are an autist I must be one too".
But you do have also to confess, that if we consider ourself as autists we are totally different kinds of autists than most others.
I don't want to sound offending but a regular person with aspergers syndrome is always a little ret*d as far as my experiences showed it to me. At least for most people it's really rather a disease than a blessing. For me it is a blessing. Especially because it's combined with brilliance. For you it is a blessing too.
Considered rationally I can't really believe that the aspergers syndrome was a step of evolution that was gone by plan, it rather is a mutation that out of a matter of fortune fits very well in the times we live in. Probably it will prevail. Since in the world of today it really is a big advantage. (I'm talking about our kind of autism, not aspergers syndrome generally)
You seem to detest school even more than me. When I was 15 I wrote a long letter of complaint to the education ministery complaining about that it does nothing but hinder youths from going on in life. That was the main message. I did want to break up school multiple times, for a longer time I even had the plan to go to the U.S. as an illegal immigrant but that was of course nothing but a dream out of dissatisfaction and boredom. The problem is, in Austria you have to visit the school 4+8=12 years to be allowed to go to the university. And I haven't been having a plan what else I could do to increase my chances of success. Much more I did only flow with time, I've never made the experience of how it is to study for school, it was all managed on it's own, they even let me pass the year when I was in the psychatry for 3-4 months. not because it's a bad school, it's a very good school. I just managed it with a few words^^
In fact I do nothing but wait for this stupid piece of paper that allows me to go to university.
If I do things on my own I can totally focus on them, I nearly get obsessed. For example music. But if somebody else chews something for me I'm not interested, it isn't my own thing, It feels so unreal to read a person of your age writing negatively about school, it appears to good to be true^^
Something like home schooling isn't common where I live, I don't even know if it is legal here.
But I know that I can totally trust in your prudence and am sure that your children will experience an awesome future.
I did only have the fear that your children might become bound to you or depending on you but since they are YOUR children they wouldn't even be influenced too much by anything
When I was a little child other parents did always ask my mother if I would visit drama classes because of my perfect manner of expression^^ Of course my mother didn't send me to such drama classes. It's great that you promote your childrens talents.
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13 Jan 2012, 1:44 pm
13 Jan 2012, 2:05 pm
PaintingDiva wrote:
You did sound offending, very.
I didn't want to sound offending. Everybody with aspergers syndrome can decide on his or her own if it's a disease or a blessing for him/her.
But it usually is meant to bring many disadvantages and I don't know if there is any benefit at all for so many people.
Maybe I used the wrong term, it's not my mothers language, I didn't mean ret*d but handicapped.
I'm also handicapped if I consider emotional closeness and so on. and actually I don't see how I should benefit from this handicap.
it's fine to not make your disorder the center of our life, I think this is necessary, but out of some reason it's still a disorder.
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