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Prof_Pretorius
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18 Jan 2007, 3:36 pm

Who said anything about cars these days?? I was talkin' about the good old days, carbs, and distributers, and points, and headers ....

Yew can't even change the bleeding spark plugs these days ! !!


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19 Jan 2007, 2:44 am

To Assume is not true as if you think you know about cars, how about trying building one from scrap that is meant for offroading only from scrap, and I can strip a hole car and put it back together they is nothing to it, only people who don't even try in the first place are the ones to shove everyone into one bag is sad, if you think mechanical stuff is hard why not have a go at the electronic...

One thing to talk about stuff but its another to be able to put it to practical use, changing a spark plug is simple just lazy, thats just maintence... Old cars are simple than what they are today...

If you want to see a young male tune his car up in the uk you will think allot differently...

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19 Jan 2007, 5:13 am

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I've notice a lot more guys working in young ladies clothing shops these days, particularly in shops like Supre and Cotton On.


Uhm ...they're called gays.


Or perverts. :P


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19 Jan 2007, 4:07 pm

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I agree about the car thing. I've don't know any young guys who know what's under the hood of their car ! ! It's a bunch of old fogeys sitting around talkin' about displacement, and double-pumper carbs ! !!

I graduated from high school in 2003, and a large part of the guys there were interested in cars and souping up their car. Because I wasn't interested in cars or sports, I had few interests in common with most other guys.



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23 Jan 2007, 8:31 pm

This is a confusing topic. Why would people be making negative assumptions about someone who does NOT view pornography if single or overindulge in alcohol with their boon companions? Surely the former at least is a pernicious practice that I would have thought was quite rightly not socially acceptable, not a criterion of healthy masculinity.

I can certainly relate to much written here. I am not really interested in Australian Rules Football (or any sports really, though more exercise than walking, even would probably be desirable) or cars, though I admit more practical knowledge about the latter would be useful as I must not always live with my parents (both my older and younger brothers have moved out) and am unlikely to be married or even dating in the near future, and shouldn't really use friends as free mechanics or chaufeurs, and probably do not wish to be taken advantage of by unscrupulous mechanics.

I also used to be interested in fairies as a child.

I am a bit confused as to why terms conveying quite different concepts should be associated - a fop or dandy was a fashionable young man about town, though the preoccupation with clothes probably tended to be conmsidered somewhat effeminate at that time. This does not appear to me to be connected with being sensitive, teetotal, or having basic morality. Nor does either concept really relate directly to homosexuality in any way (nancy boy is I believe used in that sense, and at times unjustly effeminate likewise). Is not metrosexual a variation on the slightly earlier Sensitive New Age Guy concept? How do any of these relate to employment choices, lack of knowledge of or interest in automobiles, or lack of interest in or skill in sport? Surely the fops or dandies of the eighteenth centuries were frequently cads who had little in common with sensitive people or people with basic moral self control. Many (fops and dandies) may have been quite interested in some forms of sport.

Equally, why would someone who might be described stereotypically as a tomboy be assumed to be immoral? I do not see any direct correlation here either.



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13 Dec 2009, 10:46 pm

Umm... wow did this topic get derailed! Ok now as I was going to... ooh shiny! Sorry bout that!
I just call me me! Or as my friends (yes strange I know!) call me (99% of which are LGBTQ) I am "THE GAYEST STRAIGHT MAN ALIVE!" ROFLMAO!! ! Yep seems like an insult at first but when it's coming from those strange creatures called friends its actually a compliment (especially when 99% of them are LGBTQ).



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14 Dec 2009, 12:23 pm

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Umm... wow did this topic get derailed! Ok now as I was going to... ooh shiny! Sorry bout that!
I just call me me! Or as my friends (yes strange I know!) call me (99% of which are LGBTQ) I am "THE GAYEST STRAIGHT MAN ALIVE!" ROFLMAO!! ! Yep seems like an insult at first but when it's coming from those strange creatures called friends its actually a compliment (especially when 99% of them are LGBTQ).

Oh and on a second note. I started this thread so check it out since it relates to this topic. Very Feminine Male Aspies


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15 Dec 2009, 2:48 pm

Because women being oppressed for not following a cultural "ideal" is deep rooted in history, it's now more accepted, and even encouraged, for women to step outside of these social restraints. While men may have been forced into more masculine roles based on what is socially acceptable, the oppression of men who don't fit into these roles hasn't been as highlighted as women. I think this is because women's oppression is more politically represented throughout history (think of the suffragette movement, women's empowerment in the workplace, etc.), and men's oppression has more social roots. People are generally more aware of equality rights in regard to women, and not so much to men. Equality really should apply to everyone, both women and men, and needs to be socially accepted as such.

If you feel you're being oppressed, know that I'm here for you. People can really be a**holes sometimes.



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15 Dec 2009, 8:05 pm

pinkbowtiepumps wrote:
If you feel you're being oppressed, know that I'm here for you. People can really be a**holes sometimes.

Thank you for saying that. Yes that they can.


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20 Dec 2009, 1:32 pm

Hmmm.. metrosexual?



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21 Dec 2009, 8:09 pm

blackomen wrote:
Hmmm.. metrosexual?


I was about to say the exact same thing.



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23 Dec 2009, 3:40 am

Opposite of a tomboy? Geez I dunno, a janegirl?



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24 Dec 2009, 3:20 pm

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I'm writing from the insight of someone who grew up in the deep dark South. I escaped the South over 8 yrs ago and when I go back its still the same. Women have to ask their husbands permission for everything as if they were a child and he the parent. I nearly barfed in the Houston airport listening to a Southern Belle cower down to her husband. I wanted to slap her. If you want to think you are the big man, the boss of all, just move to one of the Southern States because the older women are dumber than dumb. That's why I had to leave. I can only hope the younger gals are waking up to the fact they can be their own person & not have to ask a guy for permission for everything they do in life.


In Western-Europe, it's become almost the oposite. Out here, young women tend to dominate their men.

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As far as feminism if you are a real man you have nothing to fear from it.


Wrong! Feminism is a very dangerous political movement that has completely distorted male-female relationships. The feminisatino of men and the masculinisation of women is at least partly the consequence of feminism. The rise in divorce and lesbianism can also be partly attributed to feminism.

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I'd like to know what part of the era you are writing from about alimony? I haven't heard of anyone getting alimony payments in the past decade or more. Most of my hetero female friends are divorced and none of them get alimony though a few get child support.


Maybe it depends on where you live. Nevertheless, men are almost always discriminated in favor of women in divorce cases.

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I really don't see where women are preferred over men in jobs unless its because women tend to be more reliable.


A personal experience is when I was not allowed to work behind the counter of a canteen at my mother's work when I was doing a student job, just because I wasn't female. I guess men were believed to be less hygienic or something...

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A lot of the young men I encounter are too lazy to work so why should they get a better position over someone who busts their ass to get the job done right?


I don't know what kind of men you meet, but men generally tend to put a lot more energy in their careers than women.

I'm currently employed in Business Intelligence / IT, by the way...



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01 Jan 2010, 6:35 pm

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The men that you are describing that society may label as "sissies" -- well, I have a different label . . .

GREAT HUSBAND OR LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP MATERIAL ! ! !

Women should be so lucky to have a man that could be described in this way . . .

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01 Jan 2010, 11:17 pm

I have always heard "girly-man"


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02 Jan 2010, 12:50 am

I hate tomboys. They always hit me. For no reason too. They tell me its fun. And I can't hit them back, cause then I get in trouble, even if she hits me 20 times and I hit her once. I think if she wants to act like a man, she should be treated like a man, and take her punishment. These are the types of girls who whine about being equal, and then turn around and ask for favors, like buying her shiny things. You either want to be treated equal or you want to be treated special. What she REALLY wants is to walk around doing whatever she wants, without any repercussions at all, because women supposedly can do whatever they want and get away with it. I've met enough girls like this that its soured my image of tomboys.