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16 Nov 2011, 5:59 pm

Yes i can and do lie. Coolly and convincingly too .. (Sociopath :O )


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faerie_queene87
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16 Nov 2011, 6:00 pm

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I always tell the truth, this policy has made me very lonely and i keep waiting for my reward. I get so hurt when my friends lie to me. I am a martyr though. If everyone was like me then the world would be a much better place to live. The thing is i believe everyone and am extremely gullible. I pull people up for lying and have even dishoned best friends for it. I need to be around the truth at all time. Us apies operate on a purer level although it comes accross as we are mad. People just dont understand how to live with truth. It's nice to keep my dignity and know i am a diamond floating in a sea of sh**. I would rather be pure and lonely than lie and be popular. I will never lie or change. It's just not me. Without the truth i would be dead inside. Aspies unite. We should be running this world. Our sensitivity, HONESTY and ability to see the soul of the worlds pain is what the world needs to be at peace. AS is not a disability. It's an asset. We're not being used by society properly . I have a vision but i need some support, money and likeminded people to help see it through. It might be a whacky plan but i recon if i ran the world i could make it a much better place. These lying idiots in charge abuse their power, are motivated by greed and ego and are small minded thinkers, unlike us. If you lie to me then your a thief of my soul.


THIS. Thank you, you made my day.



Ollytheaspie
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16 Nov 2011, 7:13 pm

faerie_queene87 wrote:
rickc77 wrote:
I always tell the truth, this policy has made me very lonely and i keep waiting for my reward. I get so hurt when my friends lie to me. I am a martyr though. If everyone was like me then the world would be a much better place to live. The thing is i believe everyone and am extremely gullible. I pull people up for lying and have even dishoned best friends for it. I need to be around the truth at all time. Us apies operate on a purer level although it comes accross as we are mad. People just dont understand how to live with truth. It's nice to keep my dignity and know i am a diamond floating in a sea of sh**. I would rather be pure and lonely than lie and be popular. I will never lie or change. It's just not me. Without the truth i would be dead inside. Aspies unite. We should be running this world. Our sensitivity, HONESTY and ability to see the soul of the worlds pain is what the world needs to be at peace. AS is not a disability. It's an asset. We're not being used by society properly . I have a vision but i need some support, money and likeminded people to help see it through. It might be a whacky plan but i recon if i ran the world i could make it a much better place. These lying idiots in charge abuse their power, are motivated by greed and ego and are small minded thinkers, unlike us. If you lie to me then your a thief of my soul.


THIS. Thank you, you made my day.


well said Rickc77, that is brilliant mate. You couldn't have summed things up so swimmingly, can you imagine a world where nobody ever told a lie and everybody was equal and there was no war, and a world full of aspies. It'd be mint.



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19 Nov 2011, 3:34 am

I am very forgetful so it tends to be interpreted as lies.....dont know if this counts



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19 Nov 2011, 10:47 am

i dont usually lie other then the white lies, however, i do bend/omit parts of the truth on occasion, and i am also known to feign interest in several topics being discussed during social gatherings, these are not lying, just not mentioning that i'm actually not interested, which is a different thing in my perception



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19 Nov 2011, 10:55 am

I don't believe in lies.



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23 Nov 2011, 3:47 pm

I can't stand to be lied to. My grandparents used to do it all the time, and now it's to where I have no idea when they were telling me the truth.
I also noticed that when I lie, I get physically ill, so it's actually really unpleasant to lie to anyone. I try to avoid lying as much as possible.



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23 Nov 2011, 6:10 pm

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23 Nov 2011, 9:33 pm

I am lying right now.

OK never mind... But no, I am addicted to the truth. It's for the same reason I'm interested in science: I focus on what is instead of what is not.



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25 Nov 2011, 11:12 am

I can't lie. Ever. I hate it when people pressure me into it, but I will try... then it comes out unnatural, and I get so paranoid that they will notice that I immediately tell them the truth and why I was lying.

I also hate the tension when someone else is lying and I know. Like, if someone is trying to make a joke by hiding something from someone, I immediately tell the person. I can't stand it.

Same with social lying. I have extreme difficulty hiding my feelings if someone looks bad and asks me if they look good... I always think, though, if I asked that, I would WANT to know the truth, because why would I want to meet someone thinking I look amazing, when I looked horrible and someone could have told me to change my clothes or hair or something? Once, my friends got REALLY mad at me, because one of my friends thought this guy liked her, but I thought it was pretty obvious that he didn't, so I told her that she shouldn't waste her time on him.

People I know are fine with all this now, and know not to ask me to lie, and know not to ask my opinion of their appearance when they only want confirmation.



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25 Nov 2011, 10:38 pm

I lie all the time. I tell people what they want to hear.

When I am invited out, and I don't feel like being in the presence of other people, I will make up an excuse. I don't know whether it comes across as an authentic excuse, but it still works better than being honest and saying, 'I don't feel like hanging out today'. I will also make excuses to avoid seeing people I genuinely do not like, for fear of offending them. What I would love to say is, 'I don't want to go anywhere with you, because I don't enjoy your company'.

I lie when my mum asks me how I feel. If I told her about my anxiety, my depression or any other confronting emotion, it would only lead to her disappointment and at least 24 hours of regret. So I tell her I'm fine. When someone asks, 'how are you?' at work, I tell them I'm well. The majority of the time I'm not. Especially since work is one of the main reasons I'm not 'well' or 'fine'.

I lie through my facial expressions and body language as well. When someone tells me a story, I pretend to be interested. Most of the time, I find it dull. When someone tells a joke or story that is intended to be funny, I always fake laugh so that they don't feel bad.
Then there are some pretty serious lies I've told over the years. Those have been to protect me, rather than other people.

I'm honest about my failings as a person, though. I also do not hold much value in material possessions and income, so I don't care enough to lie about my financial situation.



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26 Nov 2011, 6:55 am

I lie to police, otherwise no; I prefer to just withhold information.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:21 am

I dislike lying, by habit and principle. Owing up to yourself builds confidence, and keeps your life from happening on other people's terms and expectations. Moreover, lies always seem incredibly fragile to me; I'm always keenly aware of all the things that could contradict and expose them.

I've no moral problem with it, it just seems socially and psychologically self-destructive. In contrast, lying to people like cops who threaten you with coercive consequences to certain answers seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I suppose I do sometimes bend truth, though, by consciously giving the perspective of my preference the benefit of a rhetorically favorable presentation within a known range of uncertainty.



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30 Nov 2011, 2:37 pm

Most people lie out of fear. Most times Ive never seen what the hell there was to be afraid of.

I mean, whaddya gonna do, hit me for telling the truth? And my dad actually did - a LOT - but Im hyposensitive to pain, and frankly I just thought he was an a**hole even MORE when hed do it.

Its funny though, he used to think I lied to him all the time. And it was also funny how he could never admit that hed been wrong after hed found out that hed thrown me a beating or grounded me for some thing that i was dead on about. He always saw me as being this Devious person, but in fact I was always pretty honorable, and it just didn t jive with the image of me he had in his mind. He needed me to be the bad guy, I suppose.


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30 Nov 2011, 7:45 pm

I guess I am more truthful than most, though when I do it, it's usually not even for a very significant reason...



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01 Dec 2011, 8:01 am

Ollytheaspie wrote:
faerie_queene87 wrote:
rickc77 wrote:
I always tell the truth, this policy has made me very lonely and i keep waiting for my reward. I get so hurt when my friends lie to me. I am a martyr though. If everyone was like me then the world would be a much better place to live. The thing is i believe everyone and am extremely gullible. I pull people up for lying and have even dishoned best friends for it. I need to be around the truth at all time. Us apies operate on a purer level although it comes accross as we are mad. People just dont understand how to live with truth. It's nice to keep my dignity and know i am a diamond floating in a sea of sh**. I would rather be pure and lonely than lie and be popular. I will never lie or change. It's just not me. Without the truth i would be dead inside. Aspies unite. We should be running this world. Our sensitivity, HONESTY and ability to see the soul of the worlds pain is what the world needs to be at peace. AS is not a disability. It's an asset. We're not being used by society properly . I have a vision but i need some support, money and likeminded people to help see it through. It might be a whacky plan but i recon if i ran the world i could make it a much better place. These lying idiots in charge abuse their power, are motivated by greed and ego and are small minded thinkers, unlike us. If you lie to me then your a thief of my soul.


THIS. Thank you, you made my day.


well said Rickc77, that is brilliant mate. You couldn't have summed things up so swimmingly, can you imagine a world where nobody ever told a lie and everybody was equal and there was no war, and a world full of aspies. It'd be mint.

Because on Planet Asperger there is no lying or sarcasm ... Earth just hasn't found that planet yet. 8)
P.S.: I disagree that the world would be better if everyone had AS. Yes, NTs lie too often and do not always distinguish between feeling and knowledge, but they can pick up on things in everyday situations and conversations that we cannot. I'm sure you know what I mean if you've ever talked for any length of time with a group of NTs (especially NT girls), and yet we are the methodical and truth-minded of our society, just the kind of people the world is asking to rise up and lead.
rickc77 wrote:
If you lie to me then your a thief of my soul.

Very well said and completely true.