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passionatebach
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25 Jun 2010, 3:00 pm

I have mulling over an aspect of my AS that has got me in trouble over the years.

When I extend social invites to people or offers of help, people have a tendency to tell me that they are busy, have other plans, or they don't need my assistance. There have been times thast I have shown up at their place anyways, because I have viewed this more as a rebuff, than actuality. This has caused for some hard feelings in some of my friendships and relationships.

I am the rare Aspie that craves social interaction. I have also noticed that this happens more with people that are my age and younger (early 30's). Older people are much more likely to accept my invitation.

Has any one ever had any experience with this, or felt this way about these situations? Does anyone have any solutions to deal with this rebuffing, or are people actually busy?

I also need to accept that NO means NO.



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25 Jun 2010, 3:05 pm

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I have mulling over an aspect of my AS that has got me in trouble over the years.

When I extend social invites to people or offers of help, people have a tendency to tell me that they are busy, have other plans, or they don't need my assistance. There have been times thast I have shown up at their place anyways, because I have viewed this more as a rebuff, than actuality. This has caused for some hard feelings in some of my friendships and relationships.

I am the rare Aspie that craves social interaction. I have also noticed that this happens more with people that are my age and younger (early 30's). Older people are much more likely to accept my invitation.

Has any one ever had any experience with this, or felt this way about these situations? Does anyone have any solutions to deal with this rebuffing, or are people actually busy?

I also need to accept that NO means NO.


No these people are not busy and they are lying. It happens to me too, but in a different way. The solution to the problem is to stop asking. The solution to dealing with it emotionally is hard because you will always feel the pain of it. My therapist and I was talking about this situation and he said it used to happen to him.



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25 Jun 2010, 5:38 pm

The theory is to ask with a light touch, to not invest that much of yourself in the first place (of course this is easier said than done, and I struggle with the very issues you mention)



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25 Jun 2010, 8:10 pm

I hate it when people just show up at my door without planning it out with me first. If I told someone I was busy or otherwise didn't want them to come over, whether I really was busy or whether I was saving my energy for some responsiblity I had to take care of later or whatever, I'd be pretty distressed if they just showed up anyway.

I have to prepare myself to interact with people and if someone just shows up at my door and I interact with them -- especially if it is an interaction with conflict, such as me telling them that I said I wouldn't be able to spend time with them and they have to go away -- I can experience physical and emotional stress symptoms for many hours afterwards.

My favorite apartment was one with a security door entrance and no doorbell buzzers by it. If someone wanted to come visit me, they had no choice but to arrange it with me because otherwise they couldn't get up to my apartment door.

I like people (at least some of them) and I like to spend time with them. But my home is my sacred safe space where I can be alone and unmolested if I need time away from the world. People who try to just drop by get the situation explained to them the first time. If they do it again anyway, they have shown me that I can't trust them to listen to and respect my needs and they get dropped as a friend.


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25 Jun 2010, 8:47 pm

Sparrowrose wrote:
I hate it when people just show up at my door without planning it out with me first. If I told someone I was busy or otherwise didn't want them to come over, whether I really was busy or whether I was saving my energy for some responsiblity I had to take care of later or whatever, I'd be pretty distressed if they just showed up anyway.

I have to prepare myself to interact with people and if someone just shows up at my door and I interact with them -- especially if it is an interaction with conflict, such as me telling them that I said I wouldn't be able to spend time with them and they have to go away -- I can experience physical and emotional stress symptoms for many hours afterwards.

My favorite apartment was one with a security door entrance and no doorbell buzzers by it. If someone wanted to come visit me, they had no choice but to arrange it with me because otherwise they couldn't get up to my apartment door.

I like people (at least some of them) and I like to spend time with them. But my home is my sacred safe space where I can be alone and unmolested if I need time away from the world. People who try to just drop by get the situation explained to them the first time. If they do it again anyway, they have shown me that I can't trust them to listen to and respect my needs and they get dropped as a friend.


This might also explain why people treat me the same when I can them on the phone. When I call acquaintances that are my age, they also tell me they are busy, or that they can't talk right now.

Even though NTs have supposed normal social skills, they can get very much this way as well. It takes a lot of preperation to get your home ready for a visiit.

Strangely enough, the only person who is very open to drop in visits is my Aspie best friend.



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25 Jun 2010, 9:13 pm

passionatebach wrote:
Sparrowrose wrote:
I hate it when people just show up at my door without planning it out with me first. If I told someone I was busy or otherwise didn't want them to come over, whether I really was busy or whether I was saving my energy for some responsiblity I had to take care of later or whatever, I'd be pretty distressed if they just showed up anyway.

I have to prepare myself to interact with people and if someone just shows up at my door and I interact with them -- especially if it is an interaction with conflict, such as me telling them that I said I wouldn't be able to spend time with them and they have to go away -- I can experience physical and emotional stress symptoms for many hours afterwards.

My favorite apartment was one with a security door entrance and no doorbell buzzers by it. If someone wanted to come visit me, they had no choice but to arrange it with me because otherwise they couldn't get up to my apartment door.

I like people (at least some of them) and I like to spend time with them. But my home is my sacred safe space where I can be alone and unmolested if I need time away from the world. People who try to just drop by get the situation explained to them the first time. If they do it again anyway, they have shown me that I can't trust them to listen to and respect my needs and they get dropped as a friend.


This might also explain why people treat me the same when I can them on the phone. When I call acquaintances that are my age, they also tell me they are busy, or that they can't talk right now.


I don't know, since I don't use the phone. I see a lot of people on campus using their phones, though. Most people, in fact. If you walk across the quad, over half the people are talking to someone on the phone.

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Even though NTs have supposed normal social skills, they can get very much this way as well. It takes a lot of preperation to get your home ready for a visiit.

Strangely enough, the only person who is very open to drop in visits is my Aspie best friend.


That might also have to do with the closeness of the friendship. When I have been very close to a particular individual, I didn't mind that person coming over unannounced, so long as they understood that some days I might not have enough personal resources to visit but most days they could come on in. But it's always been one person at a time that I feel that way about and often there's no one that close in my life.


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26 Jun 2010, 6:19 pm

I refuse to take risks :oops: I won't invite anyone to anything except for maybe one or sometimes two people I trust. Usually just one person. If someone asks me.. well, it has to be in advance (at least two days, preferably a week.)


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