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22 Jul 2010, 1:26 pm

Who here has taken communication in college? for some reason I was put in it, idc any more because I have 2 more weeks left of that class. But we are getting on subjects that make me feel out fo place.

Everyone in the class shares their stories about their freindships and relationships and how they had bfs and gfs. and I just sit there feeling out of place. and my teacher talks about how when people get into relationships they start having sex and bodning and all that stuff. I dont wanna hear about that stuff.

It's like NTs expect this to be the norm for everyone. I dont get it. Do most NTs get into relationships at young ages and start having sex, and do most NTs have best friends?

I tell my stories about how my friends ignored me every now and then, and people say "you need new friends" or "you're hanging out with the wrong people".

BUt who are the right people. I have been having people tell me this for years and I have never found the right people to hange out with. I dont think they exist. I think Im too different.

Idk, you guys tell me what you think aboy all this?



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22 Jul 2010, 1:48 pm

I think you should go full disclosure on there ass and tell them you're not putting up with their childish behavior anymore. Wear your Wrong Planet tee shirt and demand neurodiversity. Write a thesis paper on the art of starring at the ceiling for hours on end.

Can you talk to the teacher and explain why this class really isn't for you? Is there something you can do on your own for extra credit so you can pass the class?



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22 Jul 2010, 1:55 pm

hutchscott wrote:
I think you should go full disclosure on there ass and tell them you're not putting up with their childish behavior anymore. Wear your Wrong Planet tee shirt and demand neurodiversity. Write a thesis paper on the art of starring at the ceiling for hours on end.

Can you talk to the teacher and explain why this class really isn't for you? Is there something you can do on your own for extra credit so you can pass the class?


The class is easy as hell. It's just that the concepts are so small-minded kind of. Its like they never consider people with social disorders or autism. Its so generalizd like the teacher would say "at a certain age we began to get into relationships and start having sex" or "how many of you guys gotm in a fight with your best friend before?"

hello, what if we dont get into relationships easy, or we arent interested. or what if we never had a best friend. and she also goes "Communication is vital, you need relationships" I partially agree on that. but its not as vital to some as it is to most people.



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22 Jul 2010, 2:10 pm

Soledad wrote:
hutchscott wrote:
I think you should go full disclosure on there ass and tell them you're not putting up with their childish behavior anymore. Wear your Wrong Planet tee shirt and demand neurodiversity. Write a thesis paper on the art of starring at the ceiling for hours on end.

Can you talk to the teacher and explain why this class really isn't for you? Is there something you can do on your own for extra credit so you can pass the class?


The class is easy as hell. It's just that the concepts are so small-minded kind of. Its like they never consider people with social disorders or autism. Its so generalizd like the teacher would say "at a certain age we began to get into relationships and start having sex" or "how many of you guys gotm in a fight with your best friend before?"

hello, what if we dont get into relationships easy, or we arent interested. or what if we never had a best friend. and she also goes "Communication is vital, you need relationships" I partially agree on that. but its not as vital to some as it is to most people.

I don't know much about college. Can you just wear earplugs or a music player and ignore their discussions? If it really is easy as hell then I wouldn't expect for you to be missing much.



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22 Jul 2010, 2:12 pm

Soledad wrote:
hutchscott wrote:
I think you should go full disclosure on there ass and tell them you're not putting up with their childish behavior anymore. Wear your Wrong Planet tee shirt and demand neurodiversity. Write a thesis paper on the art of starring at the ceiling for hours on end.

Can you talk to the teacher and explain why this class really isn't for you? Is there something you can do on your own for extra credit so you can pass the class?


The class is easy as hell. It's just that the concepts are so small-minded kind of. Its like they never consider people with social disorders or autism. Its so generalizd like the teacher would say "at a certain age we began to get into relationships and start having sex" or "how many of you guys gotm in a fight with your best friend before?"

hello, what if we dont get into relationships easy, or we arent interested. or what if we never had a best friend. and she also goes "Communication is vital, you need relationships" I partially agree on that. but its not as vital to some as it is to most people.


I agree with hutchscott on this one. Sheesh, this reminds me of an assignment I had in 3rd grade--we had to write about who our "best friend" was. Aargh. I ended up writing about a cousin I had met once and spent one summer with. We got along okay, but she was hardly my "best friend"--we haven't even talked since then.

Yes, the concepts are "small-minded" and narrow. Maybe you should "educate" them on your experiences. It might actually open up some discussions and get them to start thinking outside of their "box" (and by "them, I mean the teacher, too--I can't believe he/she is this...what's the phrase..."simple-minded." :roll: ).

It may be that they have simply never heard of ASD's. Talk to the teacher first and go from there. If he/she is not willing to listen, then you may have to fake your way through the rest of the class, pass it and never look back. Yes, I hate having to "fake" things too, but I learned a long time ago that some people simply will not allow you to be genuine. :evil:

Of course, if he/she is willing to listen, maybe these people will actually learn something new and important.

Sorry you're going through all this. Hope it works out somehow.


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22 Jul 2010, 5:15 pm

Ugh. That makes me very glad I'm not in school anymore. I always hated those kinds of situations. I think it's a kind of NT empathy/bonding thing -- "we all have these same experiences..." The crappy thing being if you don't fit those experiences then you're a freak or a loser. (But maybe times have changed and it's not that bad these days (I hope).)

I hope they take well to any disclosure about AS. And I hope they don't pull "oh, so you're mentally ill, then?" or something equally obnoxious on you.



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22 Jul 2010, 7:33 pm

I only have two more weeks of this class so Im just gonna get through it. I dont really like the descussions though.



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22 Jul 2010, 7:44 pm

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I only have two more weeks of this class so Im just gonna get through it. I dont really like the descussions though.


Probably the best course of action at this point. Hang in there.

Is there an exit evaluation for the course/teacher? If so, voice your complaints/concerns there (they're confidential). Those things DO get read.


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22 Jul 2010, 11:32 pm

If I was in your situation, I'd tell the entire class, that I have no interest in sex, whatever, and than I'd walk out, never to be seen, again.


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23 Jul 2010, 8:34 am

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If I was in your situation, I'd tell the entire class, that I have no interest in sex, whatever, and than I'd walk out, never to be seen, again.


The thing is is that I have so much trouble connecting with people. I try, and it just doesnt go well. and I never met a girl whose personality I liked enough, unless it was a couple of my counselors and they were too old for me,/me to young for them lol. I like girls who listen to me and want to understand me. I've only met those types of girls through counseling, and those women do it because it's their job. and for friends, I have trouble connecting with people as I said, so I'm a loner. I don't like people who try to understand me, I like people who want to understand me...not people who put up with me, people who want me around just as much as i want them around.



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23 Jul 2010, 1:07 pm

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I tell my stories about how my friends ignored me every now and then, and people say "you need new friends" or "you're hanging out with the wrong people".

I've even had my therapist tell me this, and I'm 46. Dose she think I've been meeting "the wrong people" my whole life? Unfortunately it's hard to fight these kinds of perceptions. I would try to just put up with the class until it's over.

But I wouldn't give up on having a girlfriend. With close relationships it's possible to get someone to actually understand you and like you for who you are. It's much harder with casual relationships and friendships.



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23 Jul 2010, 8:04 pm

Soledad wrote:
I don't like people who try to understand me, I like people who want to understand me...not people who put up with me, people who want me around just as much as i want them around.


This is what everyone (NT's included) should want!

I don't understand why people would want "relationships" that were anything less than this.


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