these are some of the questions i would like to ask you, but am too shy and worried about. also, i barely know you, so i don't want to come on too strong or scare you off or f**k up what might already be a delicately-balanced social challenge for you (i.e. our workplace).
1. what sorts of things trigger anxiety for you? certain colors? foods? sounds? topics? because i would like to know that before i make arbitrary decisions that somehow hurt you.
2. you seem perfectly capable of what i would consider to be casual conversation. is this because you went through some sort of specific therapy for it? because it has taken me a long time to figure out how to behave in a way that creates reactions from others that i can handle or expect. this doesn't seem so different.
3. because i'm new at a place you've worked at for a long time, i've had my own little social role to figure out, and i think i've established myself alright within my team. so at this point, it would be awkward for me not to be more openly friendly with them, because we've gotten to the point where we know each other a little bit. but you don't seem to prefer maintaining silly trivial pleasantries with anyone, even though i know you must know some of them after working there for so long. i mean, i think you respond perfectly reasonably when someone else says "good morning" or "how's it going?" (and exceptionally, when it comes to work-related tasks like reporting results on the phone or exchanging specific information), but that doesn't mean you WANT to have to have that experience while you are trying to focus on work. i guess what i'm asking is: should i just go on acting like i sort of don't know you during the work day, and wait until we are one-on-one to try to have a friendship? this is what would definitely feel more natural to me. but i don't want you to feel offended because i'm less friendly with you than i am with my other co-workers. because, the truth is, i've already spent more total time having meaningful interactions with you than i have with them. i mean, i think they are all fine folks. but they are not terribly interesting to me, and you are.
4. is it easier for you to communicate in writing? because i have thought of hand-writing some thoughts and questions and maybe we could exchange dialogue that way. that sounds like fun -- passing notes back and forth or whatever.
5. how do i know if you actually want to be my friend? am i really just bothering you? i am worried that you are just being polite because you have a formula for conversation.
6. do aspies get along well with each other?
I'll try and answer those questions I can based on experience, not speculation:
1. Loud noises in general. Chainsaws, Jackhammers, loud cars and motorcycles. Screaming people, crying babies. Hot stoves. As for topics, my problem is more that I rarely know any boundaries and am too straighforward about most personal things.
2. Training and imitation. That is one of the reasons why Asperger's is so tricky: most people who have it seem normal, if just a little odd. In most social situations, I try to imitate other people who were "successful" with their behaviour. While I am perfectly to interpret most social situations I witness (as in: I am NOT involved in), I cannot process that information into a proper response that matches the expectations of other people.
4. Yes.
5. For me: If I tell you, you can assume it to be true. It is rare that I tell a lie. If people already have problems with interpreting me (as much as I have with them), lying only makes it more of a mess. I know that I can be a very convincing liar, and I used to be incredibly manipulative when I was younger (mainly because I could not handle situations I didn't have control of, so I went to great lengths in order to ensure everything went as I wanted it to).
1. what sorts of things trigger anxiety for you?
Unfamiliar or unclear social situations, multiple people talking at once or songs playing at once but not enough sound sources for it to become "just a bunch of noise"
2. you seem perfectly capable of what i would consider to be casual conversation.
It's not always different, we can socialize like NTs do, we're just predisposed to use the logical part of the brain rather than the social part. Everyone has varying levels of social intuition, Aspies just have universally bad social intuition.
3. because i'm new at a place you've worked at for a long time, i've had my own little social role to figure out, and i think i've established myself alright within my team. so at this point, it would be awkward for me not to be more openly friendly with them, because we've gotten to the point where we know each other a little bit.
I'm oblivious to social rules until someone spells it out for me or I have an epiphany, usually during intense introspection. For most of my life I had no idea how to go about making friends with someone, and didn't realize when someone was trying to become my friend.
4. is it easier for you to communicate in writing? because i have thought of hand-writing some thoughts and questions and maybe we could exchange dialogue that way. that sounds like fun -- passing notes back and forth or whatever.
Aspies tend to have terrible handwriting. Typing is a much easier way to organize thoughts. My mind races, I type, I delete, I edit.
5. how do i know if you actually want to be my friend? am i really just bothering you? i am worried that you are just being polite because you have a formula for conversation.
You might be just bothering him, or you might be subconsciously giving off and looking for neurotypical social cues. Up until less than a year ago, if a girl approached me and didn't explicitly say "Hey, you're cute" I would probably miss her body language cues and give off the impression that I was uninterested.
6. do aspies get along well with each other?
Like any other human being gets along with other humans. We can bond over the similar mindset, or clash, just like two similarly stubborn people will fight often. I was able to become a lot more aware of the world around me and develop friends and social skills, so when I interact with a lower-functioning person on the spectrum, it's like....ugh....I remember being there once, but this person is so oblivious that I can't form an equal relationship with him/her.
thanks for your responses, voyager and exhumed. i appreciate the perspective.
i wouldn't even have pursued the tactic of "learning more about asperger's" at all, except for the fact that it is one of the first things he chose to tell me about himself.
now i'm just sort of overwhelmed by all the *information* about it, and keep reminding myself that i sort of don't believe most of the BS that people spew about most things anyway. there is usually no point in comparing oneself or anyone else to any sort of standard.
everyone i know communicates differently. i would like to approach with this in mind.
People holding me back when I try to get somewhere. Telling me that they know what's best for me and refusing to help me for BS reasons. People not answering the question I asked them, but instead answering some completely different question.
Trial and error. Lots of trial and error.
Don't worry so much about everyone's impression of you. If you're in the workplace and they're more focused on you singing Good Morning Starshine on the key of "F" then they're not going to last long at their jobs.
Good morning, smile and get on with your day. Leave socializing to the wee moments before work starts, breaks and the late moments after you are on your way out.
If the conversation two guys are having at the water color doesn't interest you, don't participate. If they even ask your opinion, shrug and say, "not my area." and go about your day.
Sometimes. When I'm upset about something or I feel like I'm not going to be taken seriously, putting it in writing gets my thoughts organized and helps me to clarify my point.
You'll know I want to be your friend because I'm still here, tolerating everything about you and not expecting you to change for me. If someone is embarrassed by you for any reason then they are not your friend. Bottomline.
If you were bothering me, I wouldn't be there.
Conversely: If you were unable to tolerate me, or unable to return the effort I gave to you, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
Depends on the situation. The one person in school I consider a best friend now was the only other person who had the diagnosis. And I didn't know about his diagnosis until a year ago. Neither of us knew because it didn't matter.
And he put up with some of my most off putting behaviors. Things that would make the saintliest nun run for the hills screaming, "WTF is wrong with this guy?" Likewise, I tolerated him even when he had his explosive meltdowns. I tolerated him when he drained the batteries on my Gameboy because the only way I could get him to leave his house was if I let him play pPkemon on it. (I even tolerated the fact that he wouldn't let me play, even though he was using MY gameboy.) And I tolerated him when the cable went out in my house and I asked him to record Buffy the Vampire Slayer for me, and he kept coming up with excuses why he couldn't do it, even though his ass was glued to the chair in front of his computer and all he had to do was hit the record button on his remote.
So, honestly, the jury is out about two Aspies getting along together. But yeah, it is possible to have friends without being required to change a thing about yourself.
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