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iceveela
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29 Aug 2011, 12:28 am

What I don't understand about NT's is their obsession with the latest fashion trends. I asked one of my school buddies what was so obsessive about colored woven or knitted fanrics, and she told me it was a "artistic" thing. But I told her that I thought it was a biological thing, and that females wear high fashioned clothing, like high-heels, etc in order to attract a mate. But she told me that was not correct, although High-heels are worn in order to make your legs look longer in order to wrap them around a mate during sex. .

She told me that it was a artistic thing, and that you wear it to make yourself look nice and to give yourself a heightened self-esteem. But she also told me that my outfits were not artistic in that way and they don't look nice, and that I would have to follow a more NT dress code to look nice to other people AS WELL as myself...

But why can't I just look nice for myself and not care what other people think?

this confuses me...



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29 Aug 2011, 1:05 am

It helps if you consider fashion to be an art form. A designer making a dress is no less an artist than a painter or a sculptor, IMO. For better or worse, women judge each other on their ability to appreciate that kind of 'art'. It's the same kind of snobbery you'll find with film critics and guys who only like bands that nobody's ever heard of.

And high heels were originally made so men could more easily get on a horse back in the olden days.


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29 Aug 2011, 11:05 am

NTs give better service to folks that dress well--which is why women often dress up to go shopping!

I'd agree with your friend about mating and fashion--they dress up for themselves, not to attract guys.



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29 Aug 2011, 11:35 am

I don't get it either. I'm perfectly happy wearing my cargo scrub pants and my new military boots, which most NT's find appalling. Not to mention I'm into function over form. Fashion never looks comfortable. Why be uncomfortable all day?



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29 Aug 2011, 12:07 pm

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I'd agree with your friend about mating and fashion--they dress up for themselves, not to attract guys.


I don't know about that. I've definitely been attracted to the cute outfits that girls obviously purposefully adorn themselves with and it's pretty obvious that "getting attention" wasn't on the bottom of their list of priorities.



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29 Aug 2011, 5:14 pm

Being fashionable to me is kinda just another way of saying I want to copy others and dress boring like everyone else.
My own wardrobe seems pretty drab to me right now (AKA Average/Plain).But that's mainly cause I have no money,and buying cheap clothes from Walmart keeps me from running around naked :P

If I can get a sizable amount of cash that doesn't need to be spent on bills;I want to completely overhaul my wardrobe with all kinds of wild and random combo's.
Because I don't like dressing normal ;)



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29 Aug 2011, 5:52 pm

People do consider fashion to be an artform because you are creating a look by putting pieces together to give off an impression. But then NTs are being fashionable in order to attract an mate and to make themselves look good in comparison to other girls.



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29 Aug 2011, 7:19 pm

iceveela wrote:
What I don't understand about NT's is their obsession with the latest fashion trends. I asked one of my school buddies what was so obsessive about colored woven or knitted fanrics, and she told me it was a "artistic" thing. But I told her that I thought it was a biological thing, and that females wear high fashioned clothing, like high-heels, etc in order to attract a mate. But she told me that was not correct, although High-heels are worn in order to make your legs look longer in order to wrap them around a mate during sex. .

She told me that it was a artistic thing, and that you wear it to make yourself look nice and to give yourself a heightened self-esteem. But she also told me that my outfits were not artistic in that way and they don't look nice, and that I would have to follow a more NT dress code to look nice to other people AS WELL as myself...

But why can't I just look nice for myself and not care what other people think?

this confuses me...


not all NTs r like that... I just follow the new shoe trends but thats it, i see lots of NT boys with just shirt and cargo pants. i think its different for girls



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29 Aug 2011, 9:48 pm

BTDT wrote:
NTs give better service to folks that dress well--which is why women often dress up to go shopping!

I'd agree with your friend about mating and fashion--they dress up for themselves, not to attract guys.


Mostly true. I find that people also get more positive impressions from both genders in social situations if they dress well.

And while in animals, visual displays are all about attracting mates, this is only true to a certian extent in humans. Dressing well in everyday settings is not usually done to attract mates, but to show people that they can fit in comfortably with other people to a certain degree.

This is only a piece of the whole 'fitting in' picture, though. In high school, I made the mistake that certain social groups would like me better if I bought certian brands of clothes that they liked. Even when I did, they still didn't notice me.

If you don't follow this to a basic degree, others will see you as standing out...but sometimes standing out can be a good thing.


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29 Aug 2011, 9:51 pm

well the opposite sex usually gets considerable consideration... if they find it repulsive, no matter how much of your personhood it represents, consider it gone... especially for the female as men grade them more on attraction then their social value. You might be the hbic(or the one who lights up the room and the life of the party) but if you don't look good, men won't care and easily take the less socially valuable female whose supper hot over you.


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29 Aug 2011, 10:07 pm

Perhaps this is why I can't get a date? I don't dress fashionably at all. I know I'm not, but I don't like the stuff that's fashionable. I can't wear capri's because they hit my legs wrong, I only wear knee length shorts or full length pants. I only wear short sleeve or long sleeve shirts. Long sleeve shirts can be rolled up to create short sleeve shirt, but 3/4 length shirts are a no-no. I don't wear high heels either. They're not comfortable and I don't have the balance to wear them. Guess I'll be single forever. Sigh.



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30 Aug 2011, 12:21 am

hockeytaz wrote:
Perhaps this is why I can't get a date? I don't dress fashionably at all. I know I'm not, but I don't like the stuff that's fashionable. I can't wear capri's because they hit my legs wrong, I only wear knee length shorts or full length pants. I only wear short sleeve or long sleeve shirts. Long sleeve shirts can be rolled up to create short sleeve shirt, but 3/4 length shirts are a no-no. I don't wear high heels either. They're not comfortable and I don't have the balance to wear them. Guess I'll be single forever. Sigh.


Lol, while most guys are attracted to the cute/hot fashions, it's certainly not a prerequisite. If you have an attractive personality or have attractive looks, then that works just as well. Most guys prefer ....mmmm.... "feminine personalities". This is not to be confused with prima donnas, princesses, drama queens or high-maintenance garish types.

Big boobs help. Big butts also help. At least Sir Mix-A-Lot thinks so. XD (I'm just joking about the big butts and, no, neither are necessary.)



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30 Aug 2011, 1:36 am

swbluto wrote:
hockeytaz wrote:
Perhaps this is why I can't get a date? I don't dress fashionably at all. I know I'm not, but I don't like the stuff that's fashionable. I can't wear capri's because they hit my legs wrong, I only wear knee length shorts or full length pants. I only wear short sleeve or long sleeve shirts. Long sleeve shirts can be rolled up to create short sleeve shirt, but 3/4 length shirts are a no-no. I don't wear high heels either. They're not comfortable and I don't have the balance to wear them. Guess I'll be single forever. Sigh.


Lol, while most guys are attracted to the cute/hot fashions, it's certainly not a prerequisite. If you have an attractive personality or have attractive looks, then that works just as well. Most guys prefer ....mmmm.... "feminine personalities". This is not to be confused with prima donnas, princesses, drama queens or high-maintenance garish types.

Big boobs help. Big butts also help. At least Sir Mix-A-Lot thinks so. XD (I'm just joking about the big butts and, no, neither are necessary.)


I can be quite funny, in the the right company, so I guess I have an attractive personality. Attractive looks... um, not so much. I try to be as feminine as I can as a science geek/hockey goalie/adrenaline junky. LOL!

Big boobs just get in the way of stopping pucks, but they can be useful as airbags in the event a forward decides to run me. Big butts are better because they balance out the weight of my leg pads. :D