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01 Aug 2012, 12:05 pm

I had no idea where else to put this but this seems to fit.

I have noticed some people on here still follow trends quite a bit, not fashionwise but in their interest of shows and art. I think the biggest indicator is how many "bronies" (Male My Little Pony fans) there are on here along with those that love Japanese culture.

I thought those with autism/asperger's were almost immune to social pressure, so why do they get interested in such things despite their stupidity?

I have in the past liked things for the sake of saving a friendship, is it similar to this or is there another function?


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01 Aug 2012, 12:10 pm

SanityTheorist wrote:
I had no idea where else to put this but this seems to fit.

I have noticed some people on here still follow trends quite a bit, not fashionwise but in their interest of shows and art. I think the biggest indicator is how many "bronies" (Male My Little Pony fans) there are on here along with those that love Japanese culture.

I thought those with autism/asperger's were almost immune to social pressure, so why do they get interested in such things despite their stupidity?

I have in the past liked things for the sake of saving a friendship, is it similar to this or is there another function?


Well I don't like things because of social pressure, I like the things I like because I get enjoyment from them......but people with autism are still humans so it is possible for them to try and go along with the crowd. Then again it is also possible some people just happen to like my little pony and japanese culture it doesn't have to mean they are giving into social pressure.

Also I'd say my little pony is not necessarily stupid but certainly more geared towards female children though I'd see nothing wrong with a guy liking it...maybe a little weird if they aren't a child but whatever. As for Japanese culture I am not sure what is stupid about it, its just a specific culture I don't know that cultures are really stupid or not stupid.


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01 Aug 2012, 12:30 pm

Yu don't think anime and manga aren't written by mostly perverted old Japanese men that want to draw big boobs? They also have pointless robotics, insane game shows, weird genetically mutated food, etc. They also have the attention span as gnats because of their f****d up advertising. I think that is enough to say their culture is messed up and is affecting America's culture negatively.

My friend just told me he Japanese have a game show that is about smelling women's butts to guess what they had for lunch...best example I've heard of how messed up a culture they have.

And as far as not following social pressure, I fail tos ee why any man would watch My Little Pony. I watched one episode to see if it really had the double entendres and such and I felt like a complete priss that had wasted time.

I am moreso curious why people on here would follow trends. They are overall very shallow...although I'm sure some would say I cling to the one trends that were grunge and robot combat (Robot wars, Battlebots etc.)

COuld be that I have elss interests than most on here as well, only about 5.


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01 Aug 2012, 1:12 pm

I was thinking about something along these lines this morning. So many people here say they don't follow fashion, just wear the same clothes over and over.

Clothing/fashion was one of my special interests. I got fascinated by the way clothes fit and form silhouettes and shapes and the clothing of different time periods and how they evolved.



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01 Aug 2012, 1:20 pm

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Yu don't think anime and manga aren't written by mostly perverted old Japanese men that want to draw big boobs? They also have pointless robotics, insane game shows, weird genetically mutated food, etc. They also have the attention span as gnats because of their f**** up advertising. I think that is enough to say their culture is messed up and is affecting America's culture negatively.

Because mainstream pop culture in the U.S is such a step up lol...I was thinking more like ancient japanese culture though. I mean admittedly most japanese shows I've enjoyed are more along the lines of that sort of thing and incorporate the old mythology or weird stuff like that. As for their pop culture I imagine its more the U.S who has influenced such culture around the world rather then it effecting and/or changing american pop culture.

And no I do not think all anime and manga is written by perverts who want to draw big boobs....besides why should it be perverted to draw boobs anyways, its a body part. Also here in the U.S people automatically think of sex if there is nudity, I guess americans are perverts.


My friend just told me he Japanese have a game show that is about smelling women's butts to guess what they had for lunch...best example I've heard of how messed up a culture they have.

To me that's funny....if anything it would be messed up to take it seriously sounds like pointless entertainment and isn't that what game shows are?

And as far as not following social pressure, I fail tos ee why any man would watch My Little Pony. I watched one episode to see if it really had the double entendres and such and I felt like a complete priss that had wasted time.

I am moreso curious why people on here would follow trends. They are overall very shallow...although I'm sure some would say I cling to the one trends that were grunge and robot combat (Robot wars, Battlebots etc.)

COuld be that I have elss interests than most on here as well, only about 5.


Honestly I have not really heard of many adult males being into my little pony.....so the last thing I would think if I ran into such a person would not be that they are following a mainstream trend as that seems a little off the wall.

But what makes your interest less shallow than anyone elses?


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01 Aug 2012, 1:31 pm

I don't think my interests are any less shallow than anyone else's...I just think people need to know why they enjoy something. Even if it is pointless like robot combat.

And Japanese mythology has been sued well in video games like Onimusha and Okami, but if it is overdone like in anime then it becomes a bit collectivist I think.


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01 Aug 2012, 1:55 pm

We are human there is still a strong desire to bound with fellow man and to seek what pleasures us. I cannot fathom why anyone would like my little pony I find the whole show repulsive however they like it and thus I tolerate it existence.



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01 Aug 2012, 5:26 pm

In the short time I've been here, I've gotten the impression that disliking Autism Speaks is a fad. I'm not saying there might not be good reasons to dislike them, but that isn't what I hear - just a lot of vague statements.

Or is there an evilogue?

EDIT: That's a link above. Why on earth don't links show on this forum? It's kind of annoying.



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01 Aug 2012, 8:42 pm

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I thought those with autism/asperger's were almost immune to social pressure, so why do they get interested in such things despite their stupidity?


That's your opinion they are stupid. Others would surely disagree with you.

By that logic, people with AS would not be allowed to like anything even remotely popular.



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01 Aug 2012, 11:12 pm

I don't like things because of social pressure, I like them because I...like them? I don't know how else to describe this.

I do like anime and Japanese culture (and, by the way, you have a very narrow and biased view of this vast culture) and somehow, other people who are like me also seem to like it. I don't really know why they do or why it became popular. Maybe they like it for the same reasons that I do, since we think similarly?

I have many interests, and some of them are popular, while some of them seem relatively unheard of. I mean, did anyone else here read Warbreaker by Brandon Sanderson and think it was amazing? :( I've been dying to discuss it with somebody.



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04 Aug 2012, 6:59 am

SanityTheorist wrote:
Yu don't think anime and manga aren't written by mostly perverted old Japanese men that want to draw big boobs? They also have pointless robotics, insane game shows, weird genetically mutated food, etc. They also have the attention span as gnats because of their f**** up advertising. I think that is enough to say their culture is messed up and is affecting America's culture negatively.

My friend just told me he Japanese have a game show that is about smelling women's butts to guess what they had for lunch...best example I've heard of how messed up a culture they have.

And as far as not following social pressure, I fail tos ee why any man would watch My Little Pony. I watched one episode to see if it really had the double entendres and such and I felt like a complete priss that had wasted time.

I am moreso curious why people on here would follow trends. They are overall very shallow...although I'm sure some would say I cling to the one trends that were grunge and robot combat (Robot wars, Battlebots etc.)

COuld be that I have elss interests than most on here as well, only about 5.


you're not making any sense.

A male person liking my little pony would be an example of going AGAINST social pressure. Not WITH it! Its not cool for a guy.So a guy who is into it is bucking social pressure-one would assume. And if american aspies are more into japanese culture than aamerican nt's then that argues against it being the result of "social pressure".

Have noticed that many aspies on the WP are into animie and the like. One particular staunch flag waving american Republican christian fundie here even uses the name of a Japanese fantasy character as his nickname (the appeal of japanese pop culture runs the gamut of creeds among aspies for some reason). There is probably something about Japanese pop culture that appeals to aspies.



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04 Aug 2012, 12:10 pm

SanityTheorist wrote:
Yu don't think anime and manga aren't written by mostly perverted old Japanese men that want to draw big boobs? They also have pointless robotics, insane game shows, weird genetically mutated food, etc. They also have the attention span as gnats because of their f**** up advertising. I think that is enough to say their culture is messed up and is affecting America's culture negatively.

My friend just told me he Japanese have a game show that is about smelling women's butts to guess what they had for lunch...best example I've heard of how messed up a culture they have.


You are using your own personal ethnocentric misinterpretations and hearsay to blatantly insult my culture. I personally do not know anyone who would watch a butt sniffing game show. Big boobs in manga are there because it sells to young teenage boys. Straight boys like boobs. It's a fact and nothing to be upset over. It's probably more perverted to attach such importance and meaning to breasts. You might want to pay attention to how often sex is used to sell products in the USA/UK.

Remember, there are people from all different races on this board. Most Americans who are into the "eastern fad" don't really know much about actual Asian culture and history. Most people I've met have a very skewed image of what Asian people are like because they draw all their info from anime/dramas or an extremely superficial research on culture. Not all of us like anime and manga and our lives are not constantly like a Korean drama.

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04 Aug 2012, 12:47 pm

he USA culture is almost as bad as Japanese culture Glorifiel, but it doesn't seem quite as homogenized as japanese culture.


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21 Aug 2012, 12:14 am

SanityTheorist wrote:
I had no idea where else to put this but this seems to fit.

I have noticed some people on here still follow trends quite a bit, not fashionwise but in their interest of shows and art. I think the biggest indicator is how many "bronies" (Male My Little Pony fans) there are on here along with those that love Japanese culture.

I thought those with autism/asperger's were almost immune to social pressure, so why do they get interested in such things despite their stupidity?

I have in the past liked things for the sake of saving a friendship, is it similar to this or is there another function?


I've been giving some thought to what brought me to active participation to the board lately plus what's going on in the Member's Forum right now and I suspect that there is some element of mimcry that you're seeing. That's why it looks stupid and gets on your nerves.
Maybe it's like a message board version of body language mirroring with one's age group culture/peers? I think that might be similar to liking something to save a friendship, only this would be to put people at ease.
I've been socially pressured into a thing or two in my day, but if I say yes it's because there are good reasons for it.
The current Bandwagon Fad in the Member's Forum right now has me dumbfounded.



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21 Aug 2012, 12:42 am

Products are generally marketed towards particular demographics. Certain products will be more suited to the Aspie mindset (whether this is done deliberately or not), so there will be more of a trend towards these things, which turns it into a "fad" I suppose, if you look at it from that angle.



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21 Aug 2012, 2:28 am

Here's a thought: Maybe I watch MLP because I enjoy it. The implications!


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