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26 Jul 2009, 4:38 am

it's actually choking me up and making my eyes water that there are after all other people out there with my exact problem. well, more specifically reading people's posts describing things and situations and having had just the same thoughts, dilemmas, and situations myself and the great overwhelming feeling of sympathy/empathy hitting me all at once like an atom bomb.

self-esteem in the negatives.
social/relations confidence pretty much nonexistent.
never really sure if i'm moderately attractive or a new species of ugly.
friendships had always been at zero, and the few i have now seem fleeting and unstable.
no relationships so far for most of the damning reasons stated above.
above normal intelligence, but i'd trade it all away for some social skills.
trouble remembering things (not great short term memory, names, faces, appts, chores, etc.)
able to remember all too well, random trivial information, flashes of distant memory (long term)
trouble sleeping. tired all day. life is emotionally draining to keep up with.


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26 Jul 2009, 7:03 am

I know the feeling :) -but sometimes even here I feel like an alien :( . I guess I've been feeling like I don't fit in for so long I can't see out of my cage :roll: .



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26 Jul 2009, 7:09 am

Aimless wrote:
I know the feeling :) -but sometimes even here I feel like an alien :( . I guess I've been feeling like I don't fit in for so long I can't see out of my cage :roll: .
yeah, almost doesn't seem natural to fit in, even here, at moments.

finding out about this place was almost like a simultaneous slap to the face and a warm handshake. odd

too bad this thing doesn't have a friend space like myspace does. it's hard to keep track of individual people i'm talking to


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26 Jul 2009, 7:16 am

There's an easy friendly rapport between some members here that I don't have a talent for. I wish I did. It's the same on Facebook-I can't banter.



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26 Jul 2009, 7:22 am

^ I cannot banter either, and I have not tried anything like facebook. Even socialising online is out of my league.



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26 Jul 2009, 7:27 am

I hate it how so many people judge you (negatively) already by your inability to banter on Facebook and in real life etc. I'm sure we have lots to offer in terms of honesty, loyalty and knowledge but they (majority of NTs that I've met) don't wanna know us better or open up to us coz of our perceived lack in sense of humour. :cry:

Oh well, that's their loss...



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26 Jul 2009, 7:41 am

Amajanshi wrote:
I hate it how so many people judge you (negatively) already by your inability to banter on Facebook and in real life etc. I'm sure we have lots to offer in terms of honesty, loyalty and knowledge but they (majority of NTs that I've met) don't wanna know us better or open up to us coz of our perceived lack in sense of humour. :cry:

Oh well, that's their loss...
yeah, really, it's not my fault i'm not mr. funnyman. i'm just naturally more serious-minded :x .

NTs can be wayyy too superficial in how they approach people initially. then again so can we, but i'm detecting a trend


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26 Jul 2009, 7:53 am

Why are NT's considered the normal ones when it's the spectrumish that see through the B.S.?



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26 Jul 2009, 7:58 am

NTs are considered "normal" coz they form the majority of the world population, which sucks for us.

Yes, we are a bit superficial in how to approach people too (prefer no Banter and all that illogical crap). But based from experience, I'm sure that we give them way more chances than they give us, especially considering how much crap we have to put up with each day...



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26 Jul 2009, 11:36 am

Amajanshi wrote:
NTs are considered "normal" coz they form the majority of the world population, which sucks for us.

Yes, we are a bit superficial in how to approach people too (prefer no Banter and all that illogical crap). But based from experience, I'm sure that we give them way more chances than they give us, especially considering how much crap we have to put up with each day...



You sure got that right...
I can't tell you how many times as a teen up until this very month in my life that NT's get all flakey because I am more open in my initial conversations with someone. They immediately pull the "your creepy" line out of their asses and push away.



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26 Jul 2009, 4:14 pm

Amajanshi wrote:
NTs are considered "normal" coz they form the majority of the world population, which sucks for us.

Yes, we are a bit superficial in how to approach people too (prefer no Banter and all that illogical crap). But based from experience, I'm sure that we give them way more chances than they give us, especially considering how much crap we have to put up with each day...
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27 Jul 2009, 12:45 am

Faxxer wrote:
Amajanshi wrote:
NTs are considered "normal" coz they form the majority of the world population, which sucks for us.

Yes, we are a bit superficial in how to approach people too (prefer no Banter and all that illogical crap). But based from experience, I'm sure that we give them way more chances than they give us, especially considering how much crap we have to put up with each day...



You sure got that right...
I can't tell you how many times as a teen up until this very month in my life that NT's get all flakey because I am more open in my initial conversations with someone. They immediately pull the "your creepy" line out of their asses and push away.



I get that too.


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27 Jul 2009, 12:52 am

Tory_canuck wrote:
Faxxer wrote:
Amajanshi wrote:
NTs are considered "normal" coz they form the majority of the world population, which sucks for us.

Yes, we are a bit superficial in how to approach people too (prefer no Banter and all that illogical crap). But based from experience, I'm sure that we give them way more chances than they give us, especially considering how much crap we have to put up with each day...



You sure got that right...
I can't tell you how many times as a teen up until this very month in my life that NT's get all flakey because I am more open in my initial conversations with someone. They immediately pull the "your creepy" line out of their asses and push away.



I get that too.
it's annoying. it's hard to find someone willing to engage in actual deep conversation, when they just try to skirt the issues and hold on to their superficiality like a life preserver.


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05 Aug 2009, 2:05 am

Seanmw wrote:
it's actually choking me up and making my eyes water that there are after all other people out there with my exact problem. well, more specifically reading people's posts describing things and situations and having had just the same thoughts, dilemmas, and situations myself and the great overwhelming feeling of sympathy/empathy hitting me all at once like an atom bomb.

self-esteem in the negatives.
social/relations confidence pretty much nonexistent.
never really sure if i'm moderately attractive or a new species of ugly.
friendships had always been at zero, and the few i have now seem fleeting and unstable.
no relationships so far for most of the damning reasons stated above.
above normal intelligence, but i'd trade it all away for some social skills.
trouble remembering things (not great short term memory, names, faces, appts, chores, etc.)
able to remember all too well, random trivial information, flashes of distant memory (long term)
trouble sleeping. tired all day. life is emotionally draining to keep up with.


ETC ETC


Yes! Exactly! Ah, that's just how I feel. I agree with everything except one:

"above normal intelligence, but i'd trade it all away for some social skills." I would NEVER trade my intelligence for anything. My 'smarts' are all I have, sometimes, y'know?


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05 Aug 2009, 2:13 am

I used to get the "You're creepy" line all the time when I was in school, but...well, I guess I still do if I have to talk to someone new for too long. I don't banter well either. I don't understand small talk at all. My problem has always been that whilst someone else is busy chit-chatting about whatever inane idea pops into their head first, I do my signature move
which is to stare off into the distance while they continue to prattle, then interrupt (out of boredom) and start talking about eclipses or Japanese cuisine or something and THEN I get the blank-stare-"you're-creepy". Or else I just walk away in the middle of their boring speech and get scolded for being rude later.


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