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06 Oct 2012, 5:09 pm

...because, well, I've been thinking that 'friends' will solve my problem with 'loneliness'... but when one doesn't have a family, loneliness is one's whole life, unless they are with someone they could call a friend... and no one will keep company 24/7 like families conventionally do in relevant situations.

Perhaps, for those aspies who do live with families it is still difficult on the social skills aspect, but they don't seek friends to fill up a massive chasm in their lives - friends must be great to share one's interests with, but I suppose there's not enough to fill up 24/7.



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07 Oct 2012, 2:26 am

Don't believe that! You can find friends, and even if you don't feel like it now, you will almost certainly want to later. And when people stop trying to find, make, and keep friends, they get out of practice and they have a lot of trouble later. Always keep trying. It's not like dating, which is very nice but not vital; friends are ESSENTIAL all the time, and you are truly missing out on life if you don't have any.

Families don't keep company 24/7, even with their children. And how do you expect to ever get a family if you don't have any friends? Don't just accept that you'll be lonely forever. You can fill at least part of the void with friends, and if you're together for long enough, they will become like family.

And don't stop at one friend. You need multiple friends for this to be fixed. A mistake that a lot of people like us make is putting all our hopes into one person...



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07 Oct 2012, 6:30 am

diniesaur wrote:
Don't believe that! You can find friends, and even if you don't feel like it now, you will almost certainly want to later. And when people stop trying to find, make, and keep friends, they get out of practice and they have a lot of trouble later. Always keep trying. It's not like dating, which is very nice but not vital; friends are ESSENTIAL all the time, and you are truly missing out on life if you don't have any.

Families don't keep company 24/7, even with their children. And how do you expect to ever get a family if you don't have any friends? Don't just accept that you'll be lonely forever. You can fill at least part of the void with friends, and if you're together for long enough, they will become like family.

And don't stop at one friend. You need multiple friends for this to be fixed. A mistake that a lot of people like us make is putting all our hopes into one person...


Why is there no "like" button? Great post.



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07 Oct 2012, 6:45 am

Well, I'm not sure how they could become 'like family'... I only have one consistent friend who's older, and it's more of an academic interaction (though helpful nonetheless to get parasitic ideas out of my mind). I tried making friends with another person who's my age who's also friends with seemingly an infinite number of other people... and I was introduced to them nearly every single time I met this person, resulting in an overwhelming feeling.

Thing is, I don't seem to fit in anywhere, and someone becoming 'like family' would take years - the problem is that I'm desperate, right now, and as such that always shows, which repels most people. I also end up taking a psychological position towards people that mimics a parent-child relationship - which I don't consciously want but can't seem to help (and this certainly isn't someone becoming 'like family' - I end up doing this on day one which scares off most people).



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07 Oct 2012, 9:48 am

Awesome that you got to make a friend.



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07 Oct 2012, 10:02 am

Yeah, but the loneliness is still overwhelming. We only talk about three hours a week... that's 3 out of 168 hours that are in a whole week where I'm typically all alone. Which is why friends can never fill up what families normally do by their mere presence... otherwise, to fill up the rest of the time (theoretically) I'd need another 55 friends if every one of them talks to me for three hours too... so, yeah.



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07 Oct 2012, 10:04 am

I can only handle up to 3 friends max simultaneously, dead tiring.



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08 Oct 2012, 8:16 pm

You won't need that many friends. See if you can increase your friendship with that one guy and get other friends. To get the other friends, you'll need to let the desparation go, or at least not talk about it to people. I know it's hard, but try to stop caring about the desparation. Most importantly, if you do decide not to try because you're too desparate, you'll just make yourself more desparate later. I mean, what's the point? Just keep trying.