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03 Aug 2013, 7:49 pm

I have fallen into a small conundrum lately: whether or not to tell my friends that I'm an Aspie. It's always been relatively easy for me to tell others that I have OCD and ADHD (whether they actually believe me or not is another story, considering how much society has abused those two terms :roll:), but I have never told anyone other than my therapist, psychiatrist, and parents that I have Asperger's.

Recently--I'd say around April or May?--my therapist suggested that I should tell the closer of my friends that I have Asperger's, as this would (theoretically) make things easier on me. However, my mother insists that I do not tell anyone that I have this condition.

What should I do? :?



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03 Aug 2013, 7:57 pm

The friends who truly love you for who you are will accept you being an Aspie. I'll be honest with you, I was in the same situation. I have a friend who doesn't get along with my sister and I had the feeling that if my friend found that I realized I was an aspie, she'd end our friendship. However, I was wrong. She felt sympathetic for me, and we continue to be friends. You will never know unless you try. Tell your closest friends you're an aspie. Give them the benefit of the doubt, I'm sure they will still love you the way you are.



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03 Aug 2013, 8:39 pm

I follow a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" protocol when dealing with people in person with regards to Philosophies, Politics, Religions, Sexualities, and Emotional / Mental Issues.

I made the mistake of submitting a term paper on "Voodoo and Similar Belief Systems" in my sophomore year of high school English class.

It's now 40 years later, and former classmates have asked if I still stick pins in dolls.

:roll: "No", I say. "It's much easier to summon a hungry demon."



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03 Aug 2013, 8:49 pm

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I follow a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" protocol when dealing with people in person with regards to Philosophies, Politics, Religions, Sexualities, and Emotional / Mental Issues.

I made the mistake of submitting a term paper on "Voodoo and Similar Belief Systems" in my sophomore year of high school English class.

It's now 40 years later, and former classmates have asked if I still stick pins in dolls.

:roll: "No", I say. "It's much easier to summon a hungry demon."


Please don't get offended by this, but voodoo is a completely different subject. I have nothing against voodoo though I have no beliefs of it, but voodoo is more frowned upon than autism. In the case of our friend here, it is a good idea to have them tell their friends that they are an aspie.



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03 Aug 2013, 8:55 pm

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I follow a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" protocol when dealing with people in person with regards to Philosophies, Politics, Religions, Sexualities, and Emotional / Mental Issues. I made the mistake of submitting a term paper on "Voodoo and Similar Belief Systems" in my sophomore year of high school English class. It's now 40 years later, and former classmates have asked if I still stick pins in dolls. :roll: "No", I say. "It's much easier to summon a hungry demon."
Please don't get offended by this, but voodoo is a completely different subject. I have nothing against voodoo though I have no beliefs of it, but voodoo is more frowned upon than autism. In the case of our friend here, it is a good idea to have them tell their friends that they are an aspie.

I am not saying that ASDs and superstitious nonsense are related; I'm using a past experience to illustrate why it is not always a good idea to self-disclosed (e.g., "Come Out"). While the choice is ultimately up to the individual, it is not a choice that I would make.

What they don't know, they can not use against me.



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03 Aug 2013, 8:58 pm

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I follow a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" protocol when dealing with people in person with regards to Philosophies, Politics, Religions, Sexualities, and Emotional / Mental Issues. I made the mistake of submitting a term paper on "Voodoo and Similar Belief Systems" in my sophomore year of high school English class. It's now 40 years later, and former classmates have asked if I still stick pins in dolls. :roll: "No", I say. "It's much easier to summon a hungry demon."
Please don't get offended by this, but voodoo is a completely different subject. I have nothing against voodoo though I have no beliefs of it, but voodoo is more frowned upon than autism. In the case of our friend here, it is a good idea to have them tell their friends that they are an aspie.

I am not saying that ASDs and superstitious nonsense are related; I'm using a past experience to illustrate why it is not always a good idea to self-disclosed (e.g., "Come Out"). While the choice is ultimately up to the individual, it is not a choice that I would make.

What they don't know, they can not use against me.


True. But still, if they show special quirks that leave their friends questioning why, then it would be a good reason for our friend to tell them. And really, friends should be accepting whether one has aspergers or not. That's just how I view friendship, I suppose.



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03 Aug 2013, 9:00 pm

I don't tell my friends I have Asperger's, not because I'm ashamed of it, but because it's not something they need to know in order to know me. I'm a complex person and I don't want to be the 'aspie', I just want to be the guy they know. Now, if you feel like your friends will understand you better and relate to you better by knowing, then tell them, but other than that, give it some thought.


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03 Aug 2013, 9:05 pm

LoverOfDragons wrote:
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I am not saying that ASDs and superstitious nonsense are related; I'm using a past experience to illustrate why it is not always a good idea to self-disclosed (e.g., "Come Out"). While the choice is ultimately up to the individual, it is not a choice that I would make. What they don't know, they can not use against me.
True. But still, if they show special quirks that leave their friends questioning why, then it would be a good reason for our friend to tell them. And really, friends should be accepting whether one has aspergers or not. That's just how I view friendship, I suppose.

"Should"? :lol: Good one!

Friends will accept you only for as long as they find you acceptable. Give them sufficient cause, and even the closest of friends will turn on you, if only to show that they are part of the "in crowd" that may already be against you.

I'm in my late fifties. My days of self-disclosure are over (since 1990), and I have a lot more friends now than I did in my thirties.



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03 Aug 2013, 9:05 pm

I've already told my friends about me being an aspie, so...yeah. We will just have to let our friend decide for themselves here.



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03 Aug 2013, 9:07 pm

Sorry, I probably should have said "true friends" to go with the sentence that says "should" :oops:



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03 Aug 2013, 9:08 pm

LoverOfDragons wrote:
I've already told my friends about me being an aspie, so...yeah. We will just have to let our friend decide for themselves here.

Good luck with that. It's a personal choice, but one that I will not make ... ever again ... :(



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03 Aug 2013, 9:36 pm

I don't really care who knows or doesn't know. I told most of my friends when first diagnosed, but they don't really get it - they have always known that I was odd, but Autism is just a big mystery word that everybody has heard, but few people understand. I do not attempt to explain 'Asperger Syndrome' to anyone, I call it "a form of Autism" (according to the new DSM, that's all it is).

At this point, if someone asks why I rock and sway all the time, I'll tell them - if they don't ask, well, I don't start conversations with people who haven't spoken to me first, so that situation rarely comes up.

There are instances in which I feel it is important that people understand that I have a disability and cut me some slack for it, whether they understand what that disability is and why its a problem or not. I have been run over and pushed around by insensitive bullies my life entire and now that I have an official diagnosis, I by-god will not stand for it. If that means playing the legal disability card, so be it. :evil:



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03 Aug 2013, 11:21 pm

I'm definitely with Fnord on this one.


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04 Aug 2013, 1:14 am

thewrite1 wrote:
I have fallen into a small conundrum lately: whether or not to tell my friends that I'm an Aspie. It's always been relatively easy for me to tell others that I have OCD and ADHD (whether they actually believe me or not is another story, considering how much society has abused those two terms :roll:), but I have never told anyone other than my therapist, psychiatrist, and parents that I have Asperger's.

Recently--I'd say around April or May?--my therapist suggested that I should tell the closer of my friends that I have Asperger's, as this would (theoretically) make things easier on me. However, my mother insists that I do not tell anyone that I have this condition.

What should I do? :?


I'd say judge it by how your friends took the news of your OCD & ADHD.
If you feel they took you seriously, made an effort to understand and still show you respect after that, then by all means tell them.
As for the others, well I wouldn't tell them, but if it was me, I probably would have killed the friendship off anyway if I felt I wasn't being taken seriously, or if I felt they were not making a genuine effort to understand.
Better to have a few close caring friends, than share your secrets and allow your so called friends to snigger behind your back.



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04 Aug 2013, 1:26 am

The way you should tell is if they are curious. But if you say you have aspergers and make an excuse for it then you would look ridiculous. But if your friends know you and you say, "hey I have aspergers if you don't mind." I bet they would say back, "yeah I don't mind."



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04 Aug 2013, 1:49 am

Fnord wrote:
I follow a strict "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" protocol when dealing with people in person with regards to Philosophies, Politics, Religions, Sexualities, and Emotional / Mental Issues.

I made the mistake of submitting a term paper on "Voodoo and Similar Belief Systems" in my sophomore year of high school English class.

It's now 40 years later, and former classmates have asked if I still stick pins in dolls.

:roll: "No", I say. "It's much easier to summon a hungry demon."


I go by the same don't ask don't tell protocol. It has served me well these past few years friend wise and job wise.