Page 1 of 1 [ 9 posts ] 

ducklingintherough
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

Joined: 6 Apr 2018
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 5

06 Apr 2018, 10:00 am

How can I explain to my therapist that I don't want to make new friends and it really isn't the end of the world? I was diagnosed as having PDD-NOS at twelve and ASD level 1 at 20 (i'm just looking at some ancient neuropsych result papers and I didn't know there were levels??? That's kind of odd.) I'm not entirely sure I'm on the spectrum even with the past diagnoses because my therapist said I'm not on the spectrum. I'm actually seeing my therapist for my BPD. (Borderline) (is that important?) I'm 24 now. I only really have personal conversations with my boyfriend and my friend I grew up with. My friend told me two days ago she's moving across the country to California and it was really sudden. She's already left. My therapist has always spent a lot on time on the fact that I don't have more friends like it's a bad thing. Now it seems like she is bringing it up more and more and I keep trying to tell her that she's missing the point but she doesn't stop. She's not even asking about how I feel about my friend moving. She's just talking vaguely about how I need more connections because of it. This feels completely irrelevant and I don't understand at all. I'm sad right now because my best friend is leaving to go far away not because "oh boy! now i'm friendless except for my boyfriend! what will i ever do to recover the minus one?" I'm sad because it's her that I won't get to see anymore. (at least in the same familiar context of our street) I don't understand how my therapist views friends but i don't think she's seeing who I am regarding it all and it's frustrating. I told her that talking to new people (in person, online is different for me) honestly just makes me feel pure discomfort and I don't like to do it. It's not that I dislike people, I like them. I just don't want to make friends just to make friends. Or talk to people just to talk to them. If I happen to make a friend I'll cherish them forever and be loyal to them but it's a lot like falling in love for me. It doesn't happen because I leave the house with the objective "MAKE FRIENDS TODAY!" I don't have a lot of extra energy. I use my energy to maintain the relationships I already have. Relationships are difficult for me to manage. I really can't have too many at once. I am not a high energy person, when I have more than two important people I start to go bonkers and lose everything and I want to keep under control. I feel like I should be allowed to live authentically and not be judged. Does anyone else relate at all? If anyone has advice on how to approach my therapist on the matter I would really appreciate it!



MagicMeerkat
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2011
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,003
Location: Mel's Hole

06 Apr 2018, 10:09 am

Find another therapist


_________________
Spell meerkat with a C, and I will bite you.


ducklingintherough
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

Joined: 6 Apr 2018
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 5

06 Apr 2018, 10:23 am

You're probably right, I might have to.



Daniel89
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Oct 2017
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,592

06 Apr 2018, 10:27 am

I agree with your therapist. If your relationship with your BF ends what will you have?

It is stressful to make friends but trust me once you fall out of society its really difficult to get back in.



magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

06 Apr 2018, 10:42 am

Do you do and enjoy some activity that makes you meet people? Any hobby, work or something? Can you engage in a casual conversation? Do you do it?
If your answer for all the questions above is "yes", I think you are doing enough not to fall out of the society. Maybe your therapist's definition of a "friend" is different than yours, maybe she means acquaintances, not necessarily real friends.


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>


ducklingintherough
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

Joined: 6 Apr 2018
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 5

06 Apr 2018, 10:59 am

Daniel89 wrote:
I agree with your therapist. If your relationship with your BF ends what will you have?

It is stressful to make friends but trust me once you fall out of society its really difficult to get back in.


I would have no friends and I'm sure I would be really lonely and sad. And I would also write a lot of angsty poetry. I do make friends when the opportunity arises it's just not something I want to set out to do. I don't want to be too upset that I haven't had certain opportunities to make more friends because I don't really have control over that. Most people also make me feel very uncomfortable in a way I cannot tolerate. It's a feeling I can't really describe but it's overwhelming and I eventually start crying and stop being able to take in any information until I can have time to myself to calm down. I don't want to bother people with that because it's really not them. I think i'm just really introverted.

What does falling out of society mean? I might have already done that.



Daniel89
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Oct 2017
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,592

06 Apr 2018, 11:03 am

ducklingintherough wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
I agree with your therapist. If your relationship with your BF ends what will you have?

It is stressful to make friends but trust me once you fall out of society its really difficult to get back in.


I would have no friends and I'm sure I would be really lonely and sad. And I would also write a lot of angsty poetry. I do make friends when the opportunity arises it's just not something I want to set out to do. I don't want to be too upset that I haven't had certain opportunities to make more friends because I don't really have control over that. Most people also make me feel very uncomfortable in a way I cannot tolerate. It's a feeling I can't really describe but it's overwhelming and I eventually start crying and stop being able to take in any information until I can have time to myself to calm down. I don't want to bother people with that because it's really not them. I think i'm just really introverted.

What does falling out of society mean? I might have already done that.


I think having a BF means you probably haven't fallen out of society yet. By falling our of society I mean being isolated and not being able to relate to others and not knowing about normal society. I don't know what kind of Music people my age like, I don't know about any of this social media stuff like instagram or snapchat I am essentially a 29 year old pensioner.



magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 16,283
Location: Poland

06 Apr 2018, 11:16 am

ducklingintherough wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
I agree with your therapist. If your relationship with your BF ends what will you have?

It is stressful to make friends but trust me once you fall out of society its really difficult to get back in.


I would have no friends and I'm sure I would be really lonely and sad. And I would also write a lot of angsty poetry. I do make friends when the opportunity arises it's just not something I want to set out to do. I don't want to be too upset that I haven't had certain opportunities to make more friends because I don't really have control over that. Most people also make me feel very uncomfortable in a way I cannot tolerate. It's a feeling I can't really describe but it's overwhelming and I eventually start crying and stop being able to take in any information until I can have time to myself to calm down. I don't want to bother people with that because it's really not them. I think i'm just really introverted.

I can relate. Social life easily overwhelms me. I'm most of the time very self-controlling to behave appropriately and fearing to make another gaffe if I relax. That's because social life does not come "naturally" to me, most of the time it's a performance. Performing all the time is exhausting.
I have a few friends that I really feel free next to. Ones who accept me the way I am. And they don't feel offended when I ask them for my time alone. You don't meet such people on every corner but they do exist.


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.

<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>


ElleGaunt
Raven
Raven

Joined: 19 Feb 2018
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 122

13 Apr 2018, 11:52 am

ducklingintherough wrote:
How can I explain to my therapist that I don't want to make new friends and it really isn't the end of the world? I was diagnosed as having PDD-NOS at twelve and ASD level 1 at 20 (i'm just looking at some ancient neuropsych result papers and I didn't know there were levels??? That's kind of odd.) I'm not entirely sure I'm on the spectrum even with the past diagnoses because my therapist said I'm not on the spectrum. I'm actually seeing my therapist for my BPD. (Borderline) (is that important?) I'm 24 now. I only really have personal conversations with my boyfriend and my friend I grew up with. My friend told me two days ago she's moving across the country to California and it was really sudden. She's already left. My therapist has always spent a lot on time on the fact that I don't have more friends like it's a bad thing. Now it seems like she is bringing it up more and more and I keep trying to tell her that she's missing the point but she doesn't stop. She's not even asking about how I feel about my friend moving. She's just talking vaguely about how I need more connections because of it. This feels completely irrelevant and I don't understand at all. I'm sad right now because my best friend is leaving to go far away not because "oh boy! now i'm friendless except for my boyfriend! what will i ever do to recover the minus one?" I'm sad because it's her that I won't get to see anymore. (at least in the same familiar context of our street) I don't understand how my therapist views friends but i don't think she's seeing who I am regarding it all and it's frustrating. I told her that talking to new people (in person, online is different for me) honestly just makes me feel pure discomfort and I don't like to do it. It's not that I dislike people, I like them. I just don't want to make friends just to make friends. Or talk to people just to talk to them. If I happen to make a friend I'll cherish them forever and be loyal to them but it's a lot like falling in love for me. It doesn't happen because I leave the house with the objective "MAKE FRIENDS TODAY!" I don't have a lot of extra energy. I use my energy to maintain the relationships I already have. Relationships are difficult for me to manage. I really can't have too many at once. I am not a high energy person, when I have more than two important people I start to go bonkers and lose everything and I want to keep under control. I feel like I should be allowed to live authentically and not be judged. Does anyone else relate at all? If anyone has advice on how to approach my therapist on the matter I would really appreciate it!


You're the one missing the point. Whether you have borderline or ASD social skills are a weak point for you, by definition. The solution isn't to hide out from the challenge of making new friends, and the solution isn't to believe that because it's hard for you that means that you can't or shouldn't do it. You exactly should do what your therapist suggests. That's the point of therapy. To be in therapy and then come home and complain on the internet about how wrong your therapist is just wastes your time.

If you really can't trust your therapist, find another one. But assuming the borderline diagnosis is legitimate you ultimately trust very few people and even the ones you do trust are on thin ice, therefor it's not a great idea to think that your lack of trust means that other people are not trustworthy. More likely than not your lack of trust means that you compulsively struggle to trust, and that's all.

Challenge yourself. You can do this. Rise to the occasion.