Isolated because of thining very differently than everyone

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21 Oct 2019, 3:23 pm

Ever since I was a kid I've noticed nuance and details that other didn't. I never understood why people got into so much debt to go to college, so I decided to learn how to code and didn't go to college. So I have no debt and a high paying job.

I don't understand many things that most people do and talk about, and this often makes me feel like an alien.

At my work I often notice things others don't, and it always creates complicated situations and I end up quitting because I get so tired of the constant conflict and not being taken seriously, when the test of time eventually shows I was right all along, and had others listened we could have prevented bigger issues.(Very Cassandra-like)

My current job is remote, so I can basically ignore everyone and just do the minimum possible, but it's way below my actual potential and doesn't use my full knowledge. So it doesn't fulfil me at all besides paying very well.

And don't get me started on societal issues. It's impossible to even point out the nuance in the world's issues without being called a nazi. These are issues I don't claim to be right on, all I do is point out nuance that does exist and try to actually discuss reality instead of a made-up situation that is far from the truth, but people either refuse to see it or aren't able to. I don't know.

Basically I live my life never being able to say what I think without immediately becoming a pariah, and it gets to me because I've never felt accepted anywhere.

Even posting on the internet, I always get downvoted to oblivion whenever I point out valid concerns.

This isolation and resentment towards society at large isn't a good thing to feel, and I hope my emotions get calmer with age.

Sorry for my bad English, it's not my first language.



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21 Oct 2019, 4:14 pm

I don't know your views and I'd probably disagree with lots of them but if there were upvotes on WP, I'd give you one, just for being open.

These topics are kind of tough but it's good to hear you're open about them. The internet is a hard place to look for validation.


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21 Oct 2019, 4:17 pm

Welcome to WrongPlanet, AP! You'll find that most of us have similar stories as yours.


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21 Oct 2019, 4:25 pm

Some Aspies if they mature properly become non-conformist. Here are several quotes about non-conformist:

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do. – Rob Siltanen: Apple, "Think Different" campaign

It gives me great pleasure indeed to see the stubbornness of an incorrigible nonconformist warmly acclaimed. - Albert Einstein

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road. - Voltaire

Not all those who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

A "normal" person is the sort of person that might be designed by a committee. You know, "Each person puts in a pretty color and it comes out gray." - Alan Sherman

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche

The average man is a conformist, accepting miseries and disasters with the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. - Colin Wilson

Freedom began on the day the first sheep wandered away from the herd. ― Marty Rubin


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21 Oct 2019, 5:13 pm

Welcome to Wrong Planet and thank you for posting. I can relate to a lot of what you wrote except there was no such thing as coding when I was growing up, at least as it is understood now. :D


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21 Oct 2019, 5:15 pm

So...what are your views?



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21 Oct 2019, 5:21 pm

I feel that way all the time, but it's also the other way around. There are things I like that make others feel alien around me. I'm young, but something I've learned and just not seeking approval from anyone can lead to collapse or failure. And if loneliness comes, I don't know any way to overcome it. Maybe it's possible to lead a life like this



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21 Oct 2019, 5:26 pm

I feel like the vast majority of people here "think very differently than everyone."

Hence, I say, "Join the club" :)

I'm really not into Nazi-based viewpoints, by the way. Though, certainly, there are very few to no Republicans who profess Nazi-based viewpoints. So I wouldn't just go around calling Republicans Nazis.



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21 Oct 2019, 5:43 pm

I thought the nazi reference of the op was hyperbole. If it wasn't, then Kortie's caution should be taken seriously.


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21 Oct 2019, 5:45 pm

jimmy m wrote:
Some Aspies if they mature properly become non-conformist. Here are several quotes about non-conformist:

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do. – Rob Siltanen: Apple, "Think Different" campaign

It gives me great pleasure indeed to see the stubbornness of an incorrigible nonconformist warmly acclaimed. - Albert Einstein

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are showing a new road. - Voltaire

Not all those who wander are lost. - J.R.R. Tolkien

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill

Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

A "normal" person is the sort of person that might be designed by a committee. You know, "Each person puts in a pretty color and it comes out gray." - Alan Sherman

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche

The average man is a conformist, accepting miseries and disasters with the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. - Colin Wilson

Freedom began on the day the first sheep wandered away from the herd. ― Marty Rubin


That just brightened up my day. Thank you. Thank you so much.

kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel like the vast majority of people here "think very differently than everyone."

Hence, I say, "Join the club" :)

I'm really not into Nazi-based viewpoints, by the way. Though, certainly, there are very few to no Republicans who profess Nazi-based viewpoints. So I wouldn't just go around calling Republicans Nazis.


Yeah! A relatively newcomer to this forum, it has been great for me to find like-brained people with whom to share things. I feel you'll be right at home here. :)

I've almost given up sharing some of my views for similar reasons. Though, instead of being called a "nazi" I was a called a "white man" sharing his feelings ... Makes sense, being a non-white middle eastern bloke. Yeesh.

I think this is just a consequence of the polarizing effect of politics. On either side of the spectrum, there a definite "enemies" to the ideologies that set them apart. Such thinking kills nuance, let alone gives room for one side to explore the ideas of the other.

Incidentally, I'm left-leaning centrist just to give you an idea of where I stand ...



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22 Oct 2019, 9:18 am

That's common for autistic people, or so I've understood. Happens to some NTs too I'm sure, but if we look at %s, there are probably more autistic people than NTs who feel that way.

Have you thought about starting a business of your own? Then you could do things your way and could aim for tasks challenging enough.



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22 Oct 2019, 10:28 am

AustisticPotato wrote:
At my work I often notice things others don't, and it always creates complicated situations and I end up quitting because I get so tired of the constant conflict and not being taken seriously, when the test of time eventually shows I was right all along, and had others listened we could have prevented bigger issues.(Very Cassandra-like)

My current job is remote, so I can basically ignore everyone and just do the minimum possible, but it's way below my actual potential and doesn't use my full knowledge. So it doesn't fulfil me at all besides paying very well.

What kind of remote job do you do, and how did you manage find such a job that pays very well? This could be useful info for many of us.

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And don't get me started on societal issues. It's impossible to even point out the nuance in the world's issues without being called a nazi. These are issues I don't claim to be right on, all I do is point out nuance that does exist and try to actually discuss reality instead of a made-up situation that is far from the truth, but people either refuse to see it or aren't able to. I don't know.

Try discussing your societal views in the "Politics, Philosophy, and Religion" section of Wrong Planet (NOT any other section of WP, please, except for views that pertain specifically to autism), and see what happens. Please read the rules before you post.

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Basically I live my life never being able to say what I think without immediately becoming a pariah, and it gets to me because I've never felt accepted anywhere.

Even posting on the internet, I always get downvoted to oblivion whenever I point out valid concerns.

Unfortunately, large social media are conducive to echo chambers (on both the right and the left) and virtual lynch mobs. Small, well-moderated forums like Wrong Planet are much better.


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22 Oct 2019, 4:27 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
AustisticPotato wrote:
At my work I often notice things others don't, and it always creates complicated situations and I end up quitting because I get so tired of the constant conflict and not being taken seriously, when the test of time eventually shows I was right all along, and had others listened we could have prevented bigger issues.(Very Cassandra-like)

My current job is remote, so I can basically ignore everyone and just do the minimum possible, but it's way below my actual potential and doesn't use my full knowledge. So it doesn't fulfil me at all besides paying very well.

What kind of remote job do you do, and how did you manage find such a job that pays very well? This could be useful info for many of us.


I started to code very early on in life and it's a software engineering job. I hate software engineering, but the fact that it's remote allows me to some days almost not work at all and just play the piano. A recruiter found it for me. Or found me for it, if you want to be accurate.